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Title: Phone Losers Of America Linux
Post by: trevelyn on January 05, 2009, 02:35:59 PM
We Should totally do this, It wouldn't take long at all too.  We can just keep Gnome as the WM, and change the little foot to a PLA icon, have tons of links to media PLA TV, make the home page the home page of PLA, have funny sounds, etc..  I can rip down a box someones using to use for the dev if anyone has any ideas post em here!! :D
Title: Re: Phone Losers Of America Linux
Post by: handl3r on January 05, 2009, 03:18:42 PM
i support this idea, need skype installed by default so lawdnawd wont have to work so hard. ummm it could have a bluebox redbox.
Title: Re: Phone Losers Of America Linux
Post by: rbcp on January 05, 2009, 03:37:03 PM
The shutdown sound should be Dino's "Later on dickhead!"
Title: Re: Phone Losers Of America Linux
Post by: sabrebutt on January 05, 2009, 04:03:37 PM
Make sure that annoying click sound when you open a webpage is set to redbox a nickel. That would be nifty.

Otherwise, I would be happy to help in packaging, maintaining or writing fun apps for it.  *rainbowsmiley*
Title: Re: Phone Losers Of America Linux
Post by: Magus on January 05, 2009, 04:08:30 PM
This sounds awesome. I want to help, but I don't know shiznick about coding operating systems.
Title: Re: Phone Losers Of America Linux
Post by: trevelyn on January 05, 2009, 04:16:35 PM
hell yeah.

I coded a bluebox that works quite well - perlybluebox.pl, and hell yes, it will definitely have Skype installed (thats a given). the redbox sound would be cool, but not over and over again My own mediocre attempt at humor has been highly amusing to myself.. and the "later on dickhead" part was hilarious!! My own mediocre attempt at humor has been highly amusing to myself., that's definitely gonna be in it.  when you login to the desktop i could make that sound be the cool "cactus" jam brad made with the "hired" voice talents..
Title: Re: Phone Losers Of America Linux
Post by: sabrebutt on January 05, 2009, 04:20:16 PM
when you login to the desktop i could make that sound be the cool "cactus" jam brad made with the "hired" voice talents..

Yeah, I was thinking that too, I'm pretty sure we all were. I'm pretty sure I made some PLA icons about 8 years ago. Do you still have them RBCP?
Title: Re: Phone Losers Of America Linux
Post by: sabrebutt on January 05, 2009, 04:22:07 PM
Found this if it helps. These icons were hand made, pixel by pixel.

http://www.phonelosers.com/pla-icons-and-desktops/
Title: Re: Phone Losers Of America Linux
Post by: Magus on January 05, 2009, 04:54:43 PM
Found this if it helps. These icons were hand made, pixel by pixel.

http://www.phonelosers.com/pla-icons-and-desktops/

The /themes/ thingy you have to click doesn't work.
Title: Re: Phone Losers Of America Linux
Post by: sabrebutt on January 05, 2009, 04:58:29 PM
Yeah Brad lost it.   *winblows*
Title: Re: Phone Losers Of America Linux
Post by: Nod on January 06, 2009, 01:13:36 PM
What's this? WarDialing and blue and red boxes included in a Linux distro? AWESOME!
Title: Re: Phone Losers Of America Linux
Post by: rbcp on January 06, 2009, 01:38:09 PM
Yeah, I was thinking that too, I'm pretty sure we all were. I'm pretty sure I made some PLA icons about 8 years ago. Do you still have them RBCP?

I probably do.  /themes/ exists still, you just can't list directories on phonelosers.org.  I've been needing to make a page for all the 90's-looking icons and mouse pointers I've collected for the past 8 years or so now.
Title: Re: Phone Losers Of America Linux
Post by: trevelyn on January 06, 2009, 02:01:44 PM
90's looking? naw, lets make new ones! you guys have photoshop right? *cough*PPPP*ratebay.org**Cough**cough** DAMN THIS FLU! :( :(
Title: Re: Phone Losers Of America Linux
Post by: sabrebutt on January 06, 2009, 04:02:42 PM
Ok I downloaded the photoshop but when I try to install it GNOME asks me what program I want to open the file with.

CAN I JUST USE THE GIMP/INKSCAPE? WHAT KIND of ICONS or MousePOINTERS do we NEED..

I hope you feel better, sounds like a nasty cold *hippy*
Title: Re: Phone Losers Of America Linux
Post by: rbcp on January 06, 2009, 09:23:31 PM
http://www.phonelosers.com/themes/ (http://www.phonelosers.com/themes/) works now, but there's not a whole lot in there worth using.
Title: Re: Phone Losers Of America Linux
Post by: linear on January 06, 2009, 09:46:33 PM
base this on OpenSUSE and I'm in.
Title: Re: Phone Losers Of America Linux
Post by: Nod on January 07, 2009, 12:39:59 AM
I'd offer to help but I SUCK. If you're going to base it on Ubuntu I think you should base it on 8.1
Title: Re: Phone Losers Of America Linux
Post by: MattGSX on January 07, 2009, 08:21:55 PM
Seconded.

Anything pre 8.1 with integrated desktop effects was unstable and had spotty support of graphics cards. I really wish the beryl repos were still active, though, as I really prefer the legacy beryl plugins over Compiz Fusion.

All I ask, as always, is that the correct linux-headers, build-essential, a compiler, and the ralink-legacy (rt73, rt2750, etc, etc) are installed so I can use this on my legacy notebook. If possible as well, a low-mem version of the OS, using a PLA'd version of fluxbox, openbox, icewm, or e17, because simplified window managers in place of a DE = pure sex.
Title: Re: Phone Losers Of America Linux
Post by: sabrebutt on January 07, 2009, 09:27:05 PM
All of these ideas are great, but we're going to need some sort of server to coordinate development of this distro between us properly. That way we can all get the features we want while still fucking up everyone else's experience.
Title: Re: Phone Losers Of America Linux
Post by: trevelyn on January 08, 2009, 06:13:30 AM
Well, my linux BETA comes out feb 5th, so i'm pretty busy (i was just releasing the idea about PLA Linux from my head) , if someone else wants to start on this project that would be fine, it's not hard and you can always txt me if you have any questions on stuff. anyone have any experience with this?
Title: Re: Phone Losers Of America Linux
Post by: BrixQuikly on January 19, 2009, 03:50:38 PM
What distro are you thinking of basing this on?  I think it'd be a snap to re-work Slax.  IIRC, there's already a Skype module available in their repos.  If you are dead-set against using KDE, *box, ion3, etc, there's also an XFCE module built.  They have a fairly decent number of security tools available and any Slackbuild you compile from www.slackbuilds.org can be converted to an .lzm module in a snap.

 
Title: Re: Phone Losers Of America Linux
Post by: linear on January 19, 2009, 10:50:21 PM
i previously said OpenSUSE but now definitely agree Slack would be better. fluxbox would be great, but XFCE might be the better route to go. Or just get gnome on there (with http://gnomeslackbuild.org or http://www.droplinegnome.org maybe)
Title: Re: Phone Losers Of America Linux
Post by: BrixQuikly on January 20, 2009, 09:08:52 AM
Another bonus I had thought of was that the current incarnation of slax can fit on a 256MB thumbdrive.  If you take out KDE, then there's a load of space freeing up.  If you wanted to do as liner suggested and use a gnome build, then that can still be lzm'd and dumped in.
Title: Re: Phone Losers Of America Linux
Post by: trevelyn on January 20, 2009, 02:09:26 PM
Well, who's gonna start it up??
Title: Re: Phone Losers Of America Linux
Post by: Godot on January 20, 2009, 05:07:49 PM
I'd be willing to put it together and maintain it. I will, however, need assistance with artwork.

Also, post any Slax modules or other programs that you think belong in PLA Linux.
Title: Re: Phone Losers Of America Linux
Post by: scuba steve on January 20, 2009, 05:11:39 PM
I know I am not well know on here. Maybe more on the bridge. But I would be willing to host files. I have a FTP server with a lil more then 30 gigs ready to go.
Title: Re: Phone Losers Of America Linux
Post by: sabrebutt on January 20, 2009, 10:41:47 PM
I am started at it already.

Right now I am using Ubuntu Construction Kit to take out the languages that we don't need. This is Phonelosers of AMERICA damn it. I may eventually include Spanish and or French depending on demand. But no German, Portuguese, Italian, Russian and especially Japanese.

That has shrunk the size of the disk somewhat and now we have more room for fun, although we may have to turn it into a dvd. Please tell me what type of stuff should go on the live-cd/dvd, as we should be able to include videos, music, pla radio, etc.

Also, wallpaper submissions are here:

http://www.phonelosers.com/forums/index.php?topic=3921.0
Title: Re: Phone Losers Of America Linux
Post by: handl3r on January 20, 2009, 11:01:00 PM
I am started at it already.

Right now I am using Ubuntu Construction Kit to take out the languages that we don't need. This is Phonelosers of AMERICA damn it. I may eventually include Spanish and or French depending on demand. But no German, Portuguese, Italian, Russian and especially Japanese.

That has shrunk the size of the disk somewhat and now we have more room for fun, although we may have to turn it into a dvd. Please tell me what type of stuff should go on the live-cd/dvd, as we should be able to include videos, music, pla radio, etc.

Also, wallpaper submissions are here:

http://www.phonelosers.com/forums/index.php?topic=3921.0

Make every icon a picture of a cactus and every piece of text says cactus cactus cactus
Title: Re: Phone Losers Of America Linux
Post by: linear on January 21, 2009, 12:44:19 AM
I am using Ubuntu

booooooooooooooooo!
Title: Re: Phone Losers Of America Linux
Post by: Nod on January 21, 2009, 01:12:43 AM
Forgetting for a moment that you hate me, what is it that you dislike about Ubuntu? I've been using 8.1 since it came out and used 8.04 before that and so far it's been a fairly decent distro. I haven't really used any other distributions though so I might just like it because it's the only one I've used. What makes slackware so awesome?
Title: Re: Phone Losers Of America Linux
Post by: trevelyn on January 21, 2009, 06:11:31 AM
What makes slackware so awesome?

People do.
Title: Re: Phone Losers Of America Linux
Post by: Nod on January 21, 2009, 12:54:05 PM
So you're saying that if I were going to make another partition to install another brand of linux, which I've been planning to do, I should install slackware?
Title: Re: Phone Losers Of America Linux
Post by: Zazen on January 21, 2009, 08:15:23 PM
I have this vague memory of someone making wildcat bbs client software that was all customized with phone losers stuff. That must've been like 15 years ago, I don't even know if it was real or I'm imagining things.

This thread kinda reminds me of that, though.
Title: Re: Phone Losers Of America Linux
Post by: linear on January 22, 2009, 03:54:45 AM
Forgetting for a moment that you hate me, what is it that you dislike about Ubuntu? I've been using 8.1 since it came out and used 8.04 before that and so far it's been a fairly decent distro. I haven't really used any other distributions though so I might just like it because it's the only one I've used. What makes slackware so awesome?

It's a fanboy distro for people who don't really care to learn linux, they just want a pat on the back for not using windows. I know there are exceptions to the rule, and plenty of people on this site probably use ubuntu who actually know linux, but its basically running into the same problem that red hat was running into in 1998 (before it became an enterprise-class system) - the labeling of itself as the idiot-proof linux attracts all the idiots.

i mean, just search the support forums where its moronic users try to give other users advice. since many of them have no idea what the shit they're doing, but still feel inclined to throw their two cents in, you get retarded answers like "i dunno man, try rebooting your computer" to honest questions. You'll eventually get your answer, I'm sure... but in the mean time you have to wade through junk-answers and mE t0o!@# posts.

I'M ANGSTY.
Title: Re: Phone Losers Of America Linux
Post by: trevelyn on January 22, 2009, 06:09:19 AM
on that note, i drop out of the project.  You're right, i know nothing about linux and i'm a fanboy, sorry.
Title: Re: Phone Losers Of America Linux
Post by: linear on January 22, 2009, 01:38:31 PM
trev, i'd certainly never even pretend to imply that you don't know what you're doing.

plenty of people on this site probably use ubuntu who actually know linux

i had you in mind specifically when i said this (as i believe weaknet linux is Ubuntu based?).

honestly, i know better than that.
Title: Re: Phone Losers Of America Linux
Post by: BrixQuikly on January 23, 2009, 10:22:45 AM
In all fairness, Trev, Ubuntu is such a wildly unstable distro that it amazes me that people try to make it a poster child of Linux distros.  Every time I've had to do upgrades on someone's system, there have been scores of problems to fix.

Don't get me wrong- I like the challenge that problems present, but I DO NOT like editing a configuration file just for some "user-friendly" app to come and undo it because the designers presumed I am retarded. 

In the end, though, anyone who has even passingly read the forums knows you have it together with *nix.  I don't think anyone would try to insult you, so let's look at what linear had to say (which is not that far off from what I just did).  I know I would prefer a slack-based distro, and I'm more than happy to work on it if it comes to that.  I do have a lot of personal shit going on at the moment, and would appreciate a checklist of my appointed tasks if I am to help, though.
Title: Re: Phone Losers Of America Linux
Post by: trevelyn on January 23, 2009, 05:22:44 PM
i know i have threads here were i bitch my head off about ubuntu then everyone stuck up for it.  I choose to create my own os and i build the first version of it from Ubuntu seeing how everyone stuck up for it and now i stuck up for it and felt dumb.  Ubuntu is quite awful.  And if you want to use an "easy" Linux, i'd recommend it's father Debian.  Slackware is like BSD but not, it's disk labesl are different and the kernals are so similar in some ways but totally different in others.. I actually think the hardsest OS i have used is Solaris 10.  I was completely new to it when i started using it as a full time OS.  Suse, Redhat (enterprise), Solaris, HP-UX, AIX, and FreeBSD seem, to this day, to be standards in the system administration world.  When i started using Linux back in like 2000 i started with Redhat and i thought it was cool.  Then i found SuSe and thought it opened my eyes to all new stuff.. then i found slackware when the "WHAX!" and  "Backtrack"  live cd's were introduced.  Then i just started to use Debian and i got seriously bored of it and moved on to Solaris.  Solaris is hard because, to me, it's the closest resemblence i have had experience with to Unix.  driver supprt is low (unless your rich as hell and can afford their HW), and they too have a cool packaging system like aptitude where yopu just go to a certain website, get a link to a dep or app and wget it and install it:

pkgadd -d <package>-local


post script:
:) I used to think bash and unix commands to parse text were cool, then i found out that Perl is insanely more proficient in doing it.  But now i have gone back to using the shell, only with "Built-in" commands which are insanely longer to type out, but make me feel 1337 doing it :P

So you can see how my mind jumps around with things.  There's too many choices and i wanna try them allllllllllllll!!
 
Title: Re: Phone Losers Of America Linux
Post by: linear on January 23, 2009, 07:10:03 PM
I say we all comprimise, forget about PLA Linux, and instead make PLA DOS.

UNRELATED:
I wish Haiku OS would move their progress along a bit. I miss BeOS.
Title: Re: Phone Losers Of America Linux
Post by: handl3r on January 23, 2009, 09:36:00 PM
UNRELATED:
I wish Haiku OS would move their progress along a bit. I miss BeOS.
I agree with this! I haven't even been able to get it running semi stable in a VMware image.  >:(
Title: Re: Phone Losers Of America Linux
Post by: linear on January 23, 2009, 09:38:33 PM
i did it like two years ago? (maybe not that long?) but it wasn't too exciting. i could just run a semi up-to-date Zeta back then. but now i can't even do that!
Title: Re: Phone Losers Of America Linux
Post by: sabrebutt on January 24, 2009, 10:39:36 PM
Ok, everyone, how about OpenSolaris based Nexenta?

http://www.nexenta.org/os
Title: Re: Phone Losers Of America Linux
Post by: linear on January 24, 2009, 10:56:34 PM
OpenBeOS-based PLA-Haiku
Title: Re: Phone Losers Of America Linux
Post by: trevelyn on January 25, 2009, 11:12:51 AM
Ok, everyone, how about OpenSolaris based Nexenta?

http://www.nexenta.org/os

Nexenta ROCKS, godot sent me nexenta cd's years ago and i tested it.  :)
Title: Re: Phone Losers Of America Linux
Post by: RTF on March 21, 2009, 07:52:31 AM
Hey guys, is this the place where I can find a PLA version of OS/2?
Title: Re: Phone Losers Of America Linux
Post by: trevelyn on April 03, 2009, 09:28:38 AM
hahahahah yeah but it only runs on SGI systems buddy.. Those big purple boxen with the gold lights.
Title: Re: Phone Losers Of America Linux
Post by: PoopskinTheLiar on June 06, 2009, 07:57:27 PM
If you guys ever finish this, i intend to funnel it onto my spare computer (or heck, maybe even my main computer if i can get over my crippling fear of partition editors...I accidentally killed my spare's XP installation with a partition editor and had to wipe it and install SuSE. since then, i haven't dare touch gParted.)
Title: Re: Phone Losers Of America Linux
Post by: linear on June 06, 2009, 08:34:28 PM
well if it's built on Ubuntu, it's pretty failsafe and will work around your existing partitions.
Title: Re: Phone Losers Of America Linux
Post by: PoopskinTheLiar on June 06, 2009, 09:20:09 PM
Oh, it'll have Wubi?