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Title: Windows Seven
Post by: KaptainKrap on February 03, 2009, 07:59:39 PM
So what does everyone think about the new Windows 7. 
Title: Re: Windows Seven
Post by: linear on February 03, 2009, 09:22:54 PM
i have two 250gb harddrives, slackware is on disk0 and disk1 is unused.

the windows installation recognized disk1, but when i select to install on that disk it just says it can't and to see the log file. i don't see any god damn log file.


WAAAAAAAAAAH!
 
Title: Re: Windows Seven
Post by: linear on February 03, 2009, 09:23:54 PM
also, why the fuck is it called Windows 7?

I've tried to make this work out many ways and they all fail... Someone at Microsoft can't count.
Title: Re: Windows Seven
Post by: Godot on February 03, 2009, 10:00:57 PM
Windows NT went up to version 4.0.
NT 5.0 was Windows 2000.
NT 5.1 was XP.
NT 5.2 was Server 2003.
NT 6.0 was Vista and Server 2008.
Seven would be 7.0, right? Nope.
According to Microsoft 6.1=7.
Title: Re: Windows Seven
Post by: linear on February 04, 2009, 03:12:15 AM
that's what i'm saying!
Title: Re: Windows Seven
Post by: Magus on February 04, 2009, 03:43:39 AM
Windows NT went up to version 4.0.
NT 5.0 was Windows 2000.
NT 5.1 was XP.
NT 5.2 was Server 2003.
NT 6.0 was Vista and Server 2008.
Seven would be 7.0, right? Nope.
According to Microsoft 6.1=7.

If they skipped from NT 5.2 to NT 6.0, why can't they skip from NT 6.0 to NT 7.0?
Or am I missing something?

Also, I vote that Microsoft should change the name to Windows Se7en. That would be so 1337.
Oh, I know! They should call their next one Windows 1337. That would rule.
Title: Re: Windows Seven
Post by: m0rdekai on February 04, 2009, 05:58:41 AM
Windows NT went up to version 4.0.
NT 5.0 was Windows 2000.
NT 5.1 was XP.
NT 5.2 was Server 2003.
NT 6.0 was Vista and Server 2008.
Seven would be 7.0, right? Nope.
According to Microsoft 6.1=7.

If they skipped from NT 5.2 to NT 6.0, why can't they skip from NT 6.0 to NT 7.0?
Or am I missing something?

Also, I vote that Microsoft should change the name to Windows Se7en. That would be so 1337.
Oh, I know! They should call their next one Windows 1337. That would rule.
se7en was a movie.
windows 1337 couldnt be windows 1337 unless someone stole the OS code and made it publicly available.  They would also need to make it a security distro.
Title: Re: Windows Seven
Post by: KaptainKrap on February 04, 2009, 07:26:19 AM
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Microsoft's Mike Nash announced the name this way: "Simply put, this is the seventh release of Windows, so therefore 'Windows 7' just makes sense." We're betting that Microsoft execs are hoping that number 7 will deliver on its promise of luck--they could sure use a win after Vista.
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http://www.pcadvisor.co.uk/news/index.cfm?newsid=107112&pn=3
Title: Re: Windows Seven
Post by: jx on February 04, 2009, 07:45:36 AM
Why would they need to know how to count when they have computers that can do it for them.  ;D
Title: Re: Windows Seven
Post by: rbcp on February 04, 2009, 08:13:14 AM
Windows 3.1 = #3
Windows 95 = #4
Windows 98 = #5
Windows 2000 = #6
Windows XP = #7
Windows Vista = #8

Yeah, still doesn't work.  Maybe they're not counting 2000 and Vista because those were complete shit.  Maybe that's the reason for #7 - so they can pretend those two never existed and maybe someday we'll forget about them.

I love XP and don't see any reason at all to upgrade my OS even though Windows 7 has been getting pretty good reviews so far.  If I do upgrade it'll be at least a year after it's released, just to make sure they don't pull another Vista on us.  But in all the reviews I've read of 7, I don't really see what it does that XP doesn't do, other than maybe eat up a little more memory.
Title: Re: Windows Seven
Post by: m0rdekai on February 04, 2009, 08:51:12 AM
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Microsoft's Mike Nash announced the name this way: "Simply put, this is the seventh release of Windows, so therefore 'Windows 7' just makes sense." We're betting that Microsoft execs are hoping that number 7 will deliver on its promise of luck--they could sure use a win after Vista.
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http://www.pcadvisor.co.uk/news/index.cfm?newsid=107112&pn=3
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Why would they need to know how to count when they have computers that can do it for them.  ;D
<3
Windows 3.1 = #3
Windows 95 = #4
Windows 98 = #5
Windows 2000 = #6
Windows XP = #7
Windows Vista = #8

Yeah, still doesn't work.  Maybe they're not counting 2000 and Vista because those were complete shit.  Maybe that's the reason for #7 - so they can pretend those two never existed and maybe someday we'll forget about them.

I love XP and don't see any reason at all to upgrade my OS even though Windows 7 has been getting pretty good reviews so far.  If I do upgrade it'll be at least a year after it's released, just to make sure they don't pull another Vista on us.  But in all the reviews I've read of 7, I don't really see what it does that XP doesn't do, other than maybe eat up a little more memory.
Its technically the seventh release under the 'name' of windows.  Its not the seventh release by microsoft obviously.  I dont like the name any more than any of y'all, but it is technically accurate.

I played with 7 for a little bit.  Meh.  its not exciting.
Title: Re: Windows Seven
Post by: linear on February 04, 2009, 01:11:55 PM
Its technically the seventh release under the 'name' of windows.

but it's clearly not. in fact  rbcp just showed that in the very reply you quoted.

If they skipped from NT 5.2 to NT 6.0, why can't they skip from NT 6.0 to NT 7.0?
Or am I missing something?

they COULD, but they're not. They're releasing Windows 7 as version 6.1.7000 (.7000 is the beta)
Title: Re: Windows Seven
Post by: handl3r on February 04, 2009, 02:09:18 PM
They're hoping that 7 will be their lucky number. NO WHAMMYS NO WHAMMYS!
Title: Re: Windows Seven
Post by: Nod on February 04, 2009, 02:10:47 PM
(http://garlinggauge.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/01/whammy.jpg)
Title: Re: Windows Seven
Post by: rbcp on February 04, 2009, 04:40:37 PM
Its technically the seventh release under the 'name' of windows.

but it's clearly not. in fact  rbcp just showed that in the very reply you quoted.

Unless they're calling Windows 3.1  #1.  Was there even a Windows 1 or Windows 2?  Cause I'd never heard of them.  I went straight from using DOS 6.1 to Windows 3.1.  Then again, I was a smelly bum without a computer for most of the early 90's so maybe I somehow missed the early Windows versions.
Title: Re: Windows Seven
Post by: linear on February 04, 2009, 04:48:59 PM
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Windows_1.0
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Windows_2.0
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Windows_2.1x
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Windows_3.0

and after that the Windows 3.1 that we all know and love.

they look fucking terrible.
Title: Re: Windows Seven
Post by: Magus on February 05, 2009, 01:24:19 AM
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Windows_1.0

This one didn't sell because it gave everyone a fucking seizure.
Title: Re: Windows Seven
Post by: jx on February 05, 2009, 06:28:44 AM
For a while, I refused to use Windows Explorer and would only use Windows File Manager.  :D

Windows 3.1 was the last version with any good games: Chip's Challenge (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chip%27s_Challenge) (A puzzle game with over 100 levels which would get progressively more difficult. Though the graphics were simple, the game play made up for it.), Jezzball (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/JezzBall), Maxwell's Maniac (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maxwell%27s_Maniac). I still have them zipped up on a CD somewhere...

List of Microsoft Entertainment Pack Games (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Microsoft_Entertainment_Pack)

Edit: Don't forget about that abortion called Windows ME.  ;D
Title: Re: Windows Seven
Post by: rbcp on February 05, 2009, 07:25:14 AM
Edit: Don't forget about that abortion called Windows ME.  ;D

I had a laptop that came with Windows ME.  It was crashing regularly before I even put any software on it.  I wiped it out and put Windows 98 on it for a few months until XP came out.  They rushed out ME for the sole purpose of having an OS called Windows Millennium for the year 2000.

XP has served me well these past 9 years.
Title: Re: Windows Seven
Post by: handl3r on February 05, 2009, 12:17:04 PM
There was windows 1. Steve Ballmer was selling for JUST NINETY-NINE DOLLARS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Title: Re: Windows Seven
Post by: Gad Seditious on November 17, 2009, 11:10:52 AM
I'm running it now, still have Vista set up on a separate drive. So far, it's okay. I like it much better than Vista. Boots wayyyyyyyyyyy faster and for some reason, my system temp is down a few degrees. Might just be that I don't yet have much else installed. Just Firefox and Anti-Virus. I'm still waiting to see what kind of compatibility issues will come up as I install programs. Asus and AMD/ATI have been on top of it so far and my utilities and drivers for hardware from these two have gone just fine as long as I install in the specific order that is required in certain cases; such as Graphics drivers and utilities. I have a Foxconn MoBo, if anyone is familiar with Foxconn then you know how bad they are about updates. Great MoBo, but I wish they were better about that.

If the OS isn't buggy as I get to know it I might shell out for a legit copy for my laptop.

Anyone else?
Title: Re: Windows Seven
Post by: SpaceBison on November 17, 2009, 09:43:36 PM
For a while, I refused to use Windows Explorer and would only use Windows File Manager.  :D

Windows 3.1 was the last version with any good games: Chip's Challenge (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chip%27s_Challenge) (A puzzle game with over 100 levels which would get progressively more difficult. Though the graphics were simple, the game play made up for it.), Jezzball (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/JezzBall), Maxwell's Maniac (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maxwell%27s_Maniac). I still have them zipped up on a CD somewhere...

List of Microsoft Entertainment Pack Games (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Microsoft_Entertainment_Pack)

Edit: Don't forget about that abortion called Windows ME.  ;D
Rodent's Revenge was the bestest game ever!  :nonsense:
Title: Re: Windows Seven
Post by: ApprenticePhreak on November 18, 2009, 04:55:16 PM
Windows 3.1 = #3
Windows 95 = #4
Windows 98 = #5
Windows 2000 = #6
Windows XP = #7
Windows Vista = #8

Yeah, still doesn't work.  Maybe they're not counting 2000 and Vista because those were complete shit.  Maybe that's the reason for #7 - so they can pretend those two never existed and maybe someday we'll forget about them.

I love XP and don't see any reason at all to upgrade my OS even though Windows 7 has been getting pretty good reviews so far.  If I do upgrade it'll be at least a year after it's released, just to make sure they don't pull another Vista on us.  But in all the reviews I've read of 7, I don't really see what it does that XP doesn't do, other than maybe eat up a little more memory.

Let us count ALL of them:

Windows 1.0
Windows 2.0
Windows 2.1x [386] [486]
Windows 3.0
Windows 3.1
Windows 3.11n
Windows 95
Windows 98
Windows 98se
Windows NT 3.1
Windows NT 3.5
Windows NT 3.51
Windows NT 4.0
Windows 2000
Windows ME
Windows CE
Windows XP
Windows Vista
Windows Server 2003
Windows Home Server
Windows Server 2008
Windows 7

Maybe I just forgot how to count.
Title: Re: Windows Seven
Post by: Godot on November 18, 2009, 08:09:38 PM
I just about reposted almost the exact same thing I posted in this thread in February...
Title: Re: Windows Seven
Post by: Gad Seditious on November 19, 2009, 09:52:58 AM
So, no one else is using 7, eh?...just responding to nearly a year old posts...

Also, as I understand it, there have been only 6 operating systems prior to Win7, but there were multiple versions and variations of each one. This is the 7th, entirely new, OS.
Be thankful that Microsoft can't get it right. If they did, we'd probably be in some Matrix-like situation now...and Agents don't take prank phone call lightly.
Title: Re: Windows Seven
Post by: linear on November 19, 2009, 10:16:50 AM
Also, as I understand it, there have been only 6 operating systems prior to Win7, but there were multiple versions and variations of each one. This is the 7th, entirely new, OS.

we've kind of shown (in a number of ways) that this isn't the case.

i'm using the beta still, but when it expires, I'm out.
Title: Re: Windows Seven
Post by: ApprenticePhreak on November 19, 2009, 12:34:36 PM
So, no one else is using 7, eh?...just responding to nearly a year old posts...

Also, as I understand it, there have been only 6 operating systems prior to Win7, but there were multiple versions and variations of each one. This is the 7th, entirely new, OS.
Be thankful that Microsoft can't get it right. If they did, we'd probably be in some Matrix-like situation now...and Agents don't take prank phone call lightly.

No. That's bull shit still. Watch as I count without the .1 .2's.

Windows 1.0
Windows 2.0
Windows 3.0
Windows 95
Windows 98
Windows CE
Windows ME
Windows 2000
Windows XP
Windows Vista
Windows Home Server
Windows Server 2003
Windows Server 2008
Windows 7

See? They just don't know how to count. Nor the public really. Still, it's built on the Vista kernel with a few tweaks to the registry that you can do to Vista your self to make it less of a resource whore, but if you're running less than four gigs of RAM you'll still want to shoot your parents and school.

Not to mention I used Windows 98 with 128mb of RAM up until service pack 2 was released for XP. That machine had a Rage 128 Pro graphics card in it with a 950mhz processor. That thing as there for games and games only.

So when they released Service Pack 2 for XP and made it stable, I shifted for more games. Vista's been around for what, four years now? Give or take. And they still can't make the god damn thing functional.

Do you know how god damn annoying it is to have to right click and use "run as administrator" any time you go to use the command prompt? You can't ipconfig /release or /renew without being administrator in Vista. There's no "su" or "sudo" for Vista. So you need to close that screen down, right click and run as, and then do what you need to do.

Probably explains why I've always stuck with Linux for my OS of choice. Also have a hard drive with 95, 98, XP Pro and Server 2003 with CD keys from ITT. Don't go to ITT. That shit melts your balls and brains.

To close out I quote the network security teacher at ITT: "Hackers no longer use port scanning as a means of attack. It's mostly done by social engineering now that machines don't rely heavily on ports to process information."

This is why I left the school. Good day, folks.
Title: Re: Windows Seven
Post by: PHISH-PHREAK on November 20, 2009, 12:32:59 AM
Ive actually found Windows 7 to be quite pleasant, no problems installing and a much faster start up.
Title: Re: Windows Seven
Post by: MattGSX on November 20, 2009, 12:57:07 PM
My parents use it. I do like how slick it looks, and it does run much better than Vista did. However, I still don't think it compares visually to KDE 4 for overall visual effects. The connection manager seems a bit better than Vista's, and the thumbnail window preview feature functions much better than Vista's did. I'm curious to see how performance on their machine degrades after 12 months of patches and bug fixes, however, as that was what has killed every other MS release for me.

[EDIT/UPDATE]: I play around on my parent's computer whenever I'm there, and after less than a month I'm noticing that it's getting kind of choppy. There have been no new programs installed, and they almost never use their computer, but boot time is increasing and the time it takes to launch applications has been increasing. Microsoft doesn't seem to get the way system performance is impacted by their system updates. This is just another example of bloatware at its finest (not that *nix distros aren't just as guilty). Also, on a new PC (2 gb ram, not sure about processor except that it's a dual-core with onboard graphics and discrete sound), I'm amazed at how much CPU and memory is taken up by the OS itself; it's like Microsoft wants to force people to buy top of the line systems or perform upgrades to do more than very basic tasks with computers. There's absolutely no reason that OS developers should increase system requirements and demands so much; the extra computing power from new technology should be available as extra computing power, not tied up in just running the OS. That's a travesty.

Oh, and in terms of overall performance, MS Word still takes almost half a minute to load after selecting the shortcut from the Start Menu. What kind of shit is that?
Title: Re: Windows Seven
Post by: SpaceBison on November 21, 2009, 10:33:04 PM
I ran the beta or rc or whatever in virtual box a while back. I didn't really care much for the way the "start" menu was laid out. I guess Ubuntu has finally sucked me in. :nonsense:
Title: Re: Windows Seven
Post by: Nod on November 22, 2009, 01:18:41 AM
Do you know how god damn annoying it is to have to right click and use "run as administrator" any time you go to use the command prompt? You can't ipconfig /release or /renew without being administrator in Vista. There's no "su" or "sudo" for Vista. So you need to close that screen down, right click and run as, and then do what you need to do.

1. Right click shortcut to program.
2. Click Shortcut
3. Click the Advanced Button
4. Select the Run as administrator box
5. Click okay

I think there's a way to do it by editing the target info as well but I don't remember what it is.