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Title: Infiltrating Schools PA system!!! Need Help
Post by: boucher06 on May 28, 2007, 08:00:21 PM
Ok so here's the deal, i've done a bunch of reasearch on PA's/SRS's and it has led me next to nowhere.

Basically what i am trying to do is to somehow get on to my schools Personal Anouncement system so that i can broadcast whatever i like... i figured it would make a pretty funny grad prank, im sure you'll agree

The only problem is that, well, im not exactly sure how to achieve this goal. I can tell you that my school has two kinds of PA systems that i beleive are linked, they have the phone intercom system where you can page another phone, and they have a ceiling speaker system. When someone is paged it comes through the phone system and the ceiling speaker system. This is what i wish to infiltrate (or phreak i guess), and from there on play some sort of sound file that loops (all throughout the day, My own mediocre attempt at humor has been highly amusing to myself.).

Cheers,
boucher06
Title: Re: Infiltrating Schools PA system!!! Need Help
Post by: mr_doc on May 28, 2007, 08:04:53 PM
murd0c strongly believes that a better graduation prank would be to shoot up your school.
I concur
Title: Re: Infiltrating Schools PA system!!! Need Help
Post by: Mr.Cactus on May 28, 2007, 08:10:12 PM
I usally don't help little kids find candy buy,The first thing to do is to find the UTvault that say "DATACOMM" open that up (after hours of course) and see some of the wiring it may have some RJ-45 wiring in it or something I CLEARLY HAVE NO IDEA WHAT I'M TALKING ABOUT, EVER., but i have opened up, rewired,destroyed and raiped all my former schools  wiring.
Title: Re: Infiltrating Schools PA system!!! Need Help
Post by: boucher06 on May 28, 2007, 08:18:10 PM
Well Mr.Cactus, i appreciate the help very much... unfortunately for my i suppose, i didn't understand a single thing that was said in your post... i dont suppose you could dumb it down for someone who has no previous experience in this matter?? or otherwise point me in the right dirrection with some online sources??
Title: Re: Infiltrating Schools PA system!!! Need Help
Post by: gangals on May 28, 2007, 08:37:16 PM
Step 1: Find the main unit and write down the model number

Step 2: Google the manual
Title: Re: Infiltrating Schools PA system!!! Need Help
Post by: samo on May 29, 2007, 02:11:10 PM
Do PA systems run on the telephone system or something similar to it?
Title: Re: Infiltrating Schools PA system!!! Need Help
Post by: jimb20 on May 29, 2007, 03:21:01 PM
i have an idea how u could do it

find one of the phones that is somewhere where no one usually sees it or right next to somewhere u can hid it

it should have a intercom button on it just set up the phone to your cd player or whatever your gonna play then just casually walk away and they wont be able to find the phone thats broadcasting it

i use to play on my moms work intercom at night but that was a while ago so if anyone see anything wrong with this plan feel free to degrade my self esteem My own mediocre attempt at humor has been highly amusing to myself. just kidding go ahead ill be watching
Title: Re: Infiltrating Schools PA system!!! Need Help
Post by: PHISH-PHREAK on May 29, 2007, 04:36:42 PM
I saw this on that MTV high school pranks show. First find out the buttons for the intercom. Then buy a phone line splicer, a wireless phone and a cd player. Then sneak into an office with a phone line so you can hide the cordless phone base under a desk, then take the phone itself and use the intercom button to use the intercom anytime.
Title: Re: Infiltrating Schools PA system!!! Need Help
Post by: mr_doc on May 29, 2007, 04:51:27 PM
I saw this on that MTV high school pranks show. First find out the buttons for the intercom. Then buy a phone line splicer, a wireless phone and a cd player. Then sneak into an office with a phone line so you can hide the cordless phone base under a desk, then take the phone itself and use the intercom button to use the intercom anytime.
Where does the cd player fit into this, and what powers the cordless phone base?
Title: Re: Infiltrating Schools PA system!!! Need Help
Post by: PHISH-PHREAK on May 29, 2007, 05:07:52 PM
I saw this on that MTV high school pranks show. First find out the buttons for the intercom. Then buy a phone line splicer, a wireless phone and a cd player. Then sneak into an office with a phone line so you can hide the cordless phone base under a desk, then take the phone itself and use the intercom button to use the intercom anytime.
Where does the cd player fit into this, and what powers the cordless phone base?

What are you going to listen to when your doing this? And you could just plug in the cordless phone base into an outlet.
Title: Re: Infiltrating Schools PA system!!! Need Help
Post by: Mr.Cactus on May 29, 2007, 08:52:56 PM
Back to my post a UT vault is a short name for a utility vault a utility vault is baisicly just a big box in the ground the has wires and crap in it.  Rj-45 is  a type of phone wire that has 6 wires inside it. DATACOMM means "Data cominucations" in other words "The talking thingy lines" You would need to make a beige box (A wirless one the link here http://www.oldskoolphreak.com/tfiles/phreak/wibb.txt) and hook into the Red ang green wires on the RJ-45 cable (that is if it has RJ-45 cable)
Title: Re: Infiltrating Schools PA system!!! Need Help
Post by: extension29100 on June 14, 2007, 05:37:10 PM
I already have an idea of how I can accomplish this for my senior prank, even though I still have to get through my entire junior year. 

First, I will probably make my senior project topic have something to do with telecommunications so that I could ask the school to give me a lesson on how the phone system works as part of my research.  At this lesson, I would ask the phone system administrator how he prevents PA system abuse and would make comments to make it sound like I do not approve of such pranks.  Then I would ask them to show me how the system can be programmed from a phone.  The hardest part of the prank would be watching carefully enough at this point while the phone admin dials the system administrator code so that I can write it down.

With my school's phone system administrator code in hand, I would then go online and find the programming manual for our school's system, an Iwatsu ADIX.  Since system programming can only be done from a phone with a display and the only phones in our school that have a display are the secretary and adminisrator phones, I would buy one of the same kind of phone on ebay and plug it in in a classroom after school one day where I will be able to do my dirty work without getting caught by school officials.  Since I have the code and the programming manual, I could set up the phone as a new extension on the system and then use it to re-program the system.  First, I would remove the dialing restriction that blocks classroom phones from dialing the extension for the PA.  If possible, I would also make the PA extension accessible by calling the school from outside and dialing the extension number when the auto-attendant answers.  After that, I would change the actual extension number so that only me and the other seniors doing the prank could use it and the administration would be locked out of the PA.  Finally I would change the system admin code so they could not undo this programming until after the prank is done.  The morning after making these programming changes, a few seniors along with myself would say various funny things over the PA for a good portion of the first period.  Since we would be spread out in several different classrooms and could make announcements from all of them, it would be hard for the school to stop us.

Messing with PA systems is about the only form of prank calling that really interests me, so you probably won't see this n00b talking about anything not related to PA systems on these boards.
Title: Re: Infiltrating Schools PA system!!! Need Help
Post by: Mr.Cactus on June 17, 2007, 05:40:33 PM
For some reason i have a felling ther going to say....no
Title: Re: Infiltrating Schools PA system!!! Need Help
Post by: frog on June 17, 2007, 07:12:56 PM
Quote
Extension29100

This is way too complex and based on factors completely out of your control. I'm not even talking about the probability of people working the way you want them to, I'm talking about how you assume the universe is built to let you pull this off however your caprice leads you to try. You can't get any more than extremely surficial ideas before you really know how the school's pbx works, because your imagination doesn't play by the same rules that it does.
Title: Re: Infiltrating Schools PA system!!! Need Help
Post by: Zazen on June 17, 2007, 07:31:09 PM
Since system programming can only be done from a phone with a display and the only phones in our school that have a display are the secretary and adminisrator phones, I would buy one of the same kind of phone on ebay and plug it in in a classroom after school one day where I will be able to do my dirty work without getting caught by school officials.  Since I have the code and the programming manual, I could set up the phone as a new extension on the system and then use it to re-program the system.

So you will plug some random phone into the wall, use that extension to add itself as a display-enabled station with an extension, and then use that to reprogram the system. Sounds good.

A helpful hint for your plan: you should sell the phone on ebay before you buy it so that you'll have the money to buy the phone on ebay.
Title: Re: Infiltrating Schools PA system!!! Need Help
Post by: Anarchy Angel on June 18, 2007, 01:37:18 PM
Why not just find a phone hooked up to the system and start dialing. Be sure to use all the buttons and 0 will most likely take you right to the office. Yes this can take a while but you will learn a lot more about how these systems work. And some of what you might find could be used on other systems or be useful long after you have left school. Also play around with the VM system. Also all the systems i have ever played with have had the pa system as part of the phone system. I have heard of places that can use the PA system in separate rooms or groups of rooms but i havent really seen any evidence of this other then rumors. If this is possible the PA system would likely be separate from the phone system. Hope that helped.
Title: Re: Infiltrating Schools PA system!!! Need Help
Post by: rbcp on June 18, 2007, 02:19:13 PM
If you're lucky, the PBX they use will have some kind of a cordless phone handset option.  Then you could just hook up the base of the cordless somewhere and do your speaking over the intercom from a better hiding place.

Personally I don't think they're going to give you much information on the school's PBX, if any.  School officials may be dumb, but kids have been getting on school PA systems for as long as they've existed.  They've likely witnessed every trick imaginable by students wanting to broadcast on the PA.

You should get the manual for their PBX now and start studying it.  Maybe there's a way to override that administrator's code.  Or maybe there are other default codes in there for techs or something.  Maybe you could think of a way to call the office and SE the code from them.
Title: Re: Infiltrating Schools PA system!!! Need Help
Post by: Mr.Cactus on June 18, 2007, 08:59:24 PM
I agree with Brad (RBCP) the  best way is to find a manual just look arounfd your school and outside for electrical boxes and see if theres a brand name on any of therm or come by at 9 at night and open one of the boxes up.
Title: Re: Infiltrating Schools PA system!!! Need Help
Post by: extension29100 on June 24, 2007, 05:01:14 PM
I would never expect the school to give me that much info.  I would find out most of what I need to know from the technical manual.  The main purpose of the "lesson" would only be to steal the code, and I would be sure to spend plenty of time in advance watching a friend dial random number combinations so I could practice stealing the number.  At this point, I would not call this prank realistic because I don't know how many of my classmates would want to help with it and I wouldn't really have any alternate plan besides what I posted here since I'm not willing to resort to trespassing in order to find out how to hack the PBX.  I want to pull a prank, but not by doing anything that's likely to get the police involved.
Title: Re: Infiltrating Schools PA system!!! Need Help
Post by: Tachyon on June 24, 2007, 06:14:29 PM
PUSSY!
Title: Re: Infiltrating Schools PA system!!! Need Help
Post by: Mr.Cactus on June 25, 2007, 02:26:42 PM
PUSSY!
Title: Re: Infiltrating Schools PA system!!! Need Help
Post by: Tachyon on June 25, 2007, 02:29:52 PM
WHERE??!
Title: Re: Infiltrating Schools PA system!!! Need Help
Post by: Mr.Cactus on June 25, 2007, 07:49:01 PM
I refuse to post a picture