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Other Stuff That Has Little To Do With PLA => General Discussions => Topic started by: Tachyon on July 15, 2007, 11:37:40 AM
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Working under fake names intrigues me, but I can't figure out how to cash a check made out to a fake name after getting hired.
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A check-cashing place will do it but you'll lose some of it. Otherwise you can try bringing it to whatever bank it's drawn on and getting cash.
Opening a bank account under the fake name would be ideal.
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They'd ask for ID though, right?
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Try registering on line. You might be able to get away with just supplying a birth registration number and a SSN. You can lift those off people.
Or you could pretend to be a doctor and send to the government a birth registration for a birth that never happened, and assume that un-baby's identity.
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Check cashing places exist for people without ID, you'll do fine there. The bank the check is drawn on will have their own policies, though. They might take no ID or weak ID, or they might not want to do it at all even with proper ID. YMMV
Opening a bank account requires ID or some other special effort.
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They'd ask for ID though, right?
So would the place that's hiring you.
My bank charges $5.00 to anyone who doesn't have an account there. I've heard them say that to people there before who were trying to cash a check. I would guess they'd still ask for ID though. The question is, what kind of ID will they accept? Call around to some banks in your area and ask them that question.
When I used to work under fake names, I almost always used check cashing places. They steal a small percent from you, but at least you don't have to pay taxes at the end of the year. It all works out. I would have a photocopy of my drivers license (fake, obviously) and I would claim that I'd recently lost my original. I'd say I had the photocopy because my employer had needed a photocopy of it when I got hired and I'd made an extra copy. I also used banks that the checks were from, if they were local. They would know that the check was good, so they'd just need some ID.
What you do, is use something like a photocopied ID to build up other kinds of ID. Like, use it to get a card at a video store. Now you have a second type of ID. Use those to get a library card. Make yourself a laminated college ID to back it all up. You could probably make a realistic-looking social security card. The more fake ID you carry around in your wallet, the more convincing you'll be. And the more IDs you acquire, the more you can get.
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Would I need both sides of the ID photocopied? The last place I worked at never needed an ID, and that was an office job. They asked for a SIN number (that's Krazy Kanadian for 'social security number') but I don't figure they check them all the time because a friend of mine was too young and lied about his age, but they never bothered to find out.
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If you're like me and too scared to forge anything, then a utility bill is a decent initial breeder document. Another good initial item is one of those "gift-card" prepaid credit cards personalized with your name on it, except you pick a design that doesn't look like a gift card. You can use that to sign up for a class at a local community college, get a genuine ID, and then cancel the class and get a refund. I did that once and got a nice printed PVC photo ID, obviously not something I cooked up at home. That ID went pretty far.
There's a fancy name I read somewhere for when you build up your weaker ID into stronger ID. Like "tower of power" or something.
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If you're like me and too scared to forge anything, then a utility bill is a decent initial breeder document. Another good initial item is one of those "gift-card" prepaid credit cards personalized with your name on it, except you pick a design that doesn't look like a gift card. You can use that to sign up for a class at a local community college, get a genuine ID, and then cancel the class and get a refund. I did that once and got a nice printed PVC photo ID, obviously not something I cooked up at home. That ID went pretty far.
There's a fancy name I read somewhere for when you build up your weaker ID into stronger ID. Like "tower of power" or something.
Yeah I heard from Rambam's talk at HOPE that you can even forge the documents needed to get a passport at home. I've seen prepaid gift cards (VISA I think they were) but where would I go for a personalized one?
I'm more than able to make a great looking fake photocopy.
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I had found a site online that sold them, called them up to get order info, and sent them a money order. Google seems to have plenty of hits for "personalized gift card" so they're still around.
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SIN number (that's Krazy Kanadian for 'social security number')
It's called a SIN number because Social Security is a form of Communism and Communism is a SIN!
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This thread (http://www.phonelosers.org/forums/index.php?topic=498.0) has some fake ID info in it. And that trumpet guy makes some really nice-looking IDs. Someone on the forums ordered from him and told me that the ID was perfect. So if you have a few hundred dollars to blow on a fake ID, you should email that guy.
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SIN number (that's Krazy Kanadian for 'social security number')
It's called a SIN number because Social Security is a form of Communism and Communism is a SIN!
You don't know how many times I've heard that...often seriously...
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Sadly I'm broke. Also, I'd like to try this on my own first before copping out. I'd like to see just how easy this is (if it's anything like how easy it is to get people to forward phones, give out info, ect., I'll probably cry over it).
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If I try and rent an apartment with a fake name and SIN number, will the landlord actually take the time to check it?
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Here in CA they check your credit, even for the shittiest apartment. You might be ok renting a room from somebody though.
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If I try and rent an apartment with a fake name and SIN number, will the landlord actually take the time to check it?
Most likely yes. The good news is that it will come up with no history. Tell him that you never applied for credit, that this is your first apartment, etc and unless the landlord is a total dick and have a huge list of people to rent to, you'll be fine.
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Don't be misled, many landlords won't bother with credit checks. You're looking for a small cheap place just for yourself, right? Plenty of landlords are too cheap to pay for a credit check, especially small-time landlords who own two-family homes or who converted their basement into an apartment for a few extra bucks. Ask them over the phone if they own any other rental property. If the answer is no, they probably won't do a credit check.
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Don't be misled, many landlords won't bother with credit checks. You're looking for a small cheap place just for yourself, right? Plenty of landlords are too cheap to pay for a credit check, especially small-time landlords who own two-family homes or who converted their basement into an apartment for a few extra bucks. Ask them over the phone if they own any other rental property. If the answer is no, they probably won't do a credit check.
The last 3 places I've rented from, the landlord charged me for the credit check ($25 each time) and did it online, probably through experian.
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Don't be misled, many landlords won't bother with credit checks. You're looking for a small cheap place just for yourself, right? Plenty of landlords are too cheap to pay for a credit check, especially small-time landlords who own two-family homes or who converted their basement into an apartment for a few extra bucks. Ask them over the phone if they own any other rental property. If the answer is no, they probably won't do a credit check.
The last 3 places I've rented from, the landlord charged me for the credit check ($25 each time) and did it online, probably through experian.
Landlords not only have the option of pulling your credit file, but can also pull your rental history from one of the many new reporting agencies. I can't remember, but I believe Experian is working with a company on a special credit/rental file for landlords.
Zazen, I would have to agree with you, many mom and pop landlords do not bother to check credit. An application and an interview is sufficient. Now the bigger property management companies are known to pull credit. I guess it depends on how big the units are and how big the landlord is. I work in the finance industry and look at credit reports all day long. Rarely do I see any type of credit checks done on a potential renter.
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It'd probably be easier to just look in the classifieds for people who want a roommate and give them cash every month.
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I used to use nobelcat templates to create novelty I.D.
And supposedly, out there somewhere is a version of nobelcat that connects directly to the D.M.V.
Although I'm sure that a remote terminal could be emulated once the protocol was disected.
www.greendotonline.com is the place to get prepaid gift cards with "your" name embossed on them.
As long as the property management firm believes your I.D. then the credit that they check is going to be fine, as long as it's not yours.
For some really good information on anonymity check out www.freebooter.com
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does anyone out there know where I could download a copy of nobelcats?????
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does anyone out there know where I could download a copy of nobelcats?????
Is that like Battletoads?
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does anyone out there know where I could download a copy of nobelcats?????
Is that like Battletoads?
Only the Wii version... I also recently learned from a gamestop in Hawaii that micro$oft will no longer be making Xbox or Xbox 180 games, so my request for a copy of the kid's game 'Happy Scrappy Hero Pup' will most likely be delayed until a 360 release... damn them...
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does anyone out there know where I could download a copy of nobelcats?????
Is that like Battletoads?
Only the Wii version... I also recently learned from a gamestop in Hawaii that micro$oft will no longer be making Xbox or Xbox 180 games, so my request for a copy of the kid's game 'Happy Scrappy Hero Pup' will most likely be delayed until a 360 release... damn them...
you know why its called a 360?