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Title: Ubuntu help
Post by: Lord Valmont Illamato on March 18, 2008, 04:31:14 PM
I recently downloaded the iso image file of ubuntu to a cd and i cant get it, to load or run on my comp. any suggestions, I've neva worked with it b-4 and want to get rid of this weak ass vista, and run a linux OS instead!!
Title: Re: Ubuntu help
Post by: phone piper on March 18, 2008, 04:37:13 PM
why don't you just use a live cd?
Title: Re: Ubuntu help
Post by: ataxicwolf on March 18, 2008, 04:55:42 PM
I recently downloaded the iso image file of ubuntu to a cd and i cant get it, to load or run on my comp. any suggestions, I've neva worked with it b-4 and want to get rid of this weak ass vista, and run a linux OS instead!!
Can you be more specific about the problem you're having? I too was recently having trouble running the LIve CD on my old laptop. My solution was to use the Alternative Ubuntu disc, which is a simple text-based installer, rather than use the Live CD which would take 10-20 minutes just to boot.

Simply go to the link below to download, and check the box that says:
"Check here if you need the alternate desktop CD"

Link:
http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu/download

Let me know if this helps  ;)
Title: Re: Ubuntu help
Post by: Lord Valmont Illamato on March 18, 2008, 05:35:11 PM
So far i downloaded the image .iso. And a infra recoder to burn it to a disk. but all it does is burn the image firle back to the disk there no other icons on the disk???
Title: Re: Ubuntu help
Post by: trevelyn on March 18, 2008, 06:21:45 PM
sounds like you are making a data disc and not burning the actuall image.
Title: Re: Ubuntu help
Post by: mr_doc on March 18, 2008, 06:31:26 PM
do you know how to burn an image?

https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BurningIsoHowto
Title: Re: Ubuntu help
Post by: Lord Valmont Illamato on March 20, 2008, 03:00:09 PM
I used the link they gave me on the web site for the Ifrared image burner but it juss copied the .iso again and it dosent boot or anything
Title: Re: Ubuntu help
Post by: mr_doc on March 20, 2008, 03:26:32 PM
Use Nero, DVD Decrypter or Alcohol  120% to burn the image.
If you do burn it right and can't boot with it, change your bios to boot from cd/dvd drive.
Title: Re: Ubuntu help
Post by: Lord Valmont Illamato on March 20, 2008, 03:28:08 PM
will do!!
Title: Re: Ubuntu help
Post by: Nod on March 20, 2008, 03:38:44 PM
Use Nero, DVD Decrypter or Alcohol  120% to burn the image.
If you do burn it right and can't boot with it, change your bios to boot from cd/dvd drive.


Just out of curiosity, what do you do if your computer won't boot from the cd/dvd or floppy drive no matter how many times you change the bios to tell it to do so?
Title: Re: Ubuntu help
Post by: metatron on March 20, 2008, 09:13:54 PM
Use Nero, DVD Decrypter or Alcohol  120% to burn the image.
If you do burn it right and can't boot with it, change your bios to boot from cd/dvd drive.


Just out of curiosity, what do you do if your computer won't boot from the cd/dvd or floppy drive no matter how many times you change the bios to tell it to do so?

Possibilities

1. Your computer was manufactured before 1996ish and doesn't support the el torito bootable CD specification.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/El_Torito_(CD-ROM_standard)
(And not likely unless you're surfing the web with a pentium I or 486)

2. Your BIOS are messed up. Probably not very likely..especially if your computer works (i.e. boots into whatever OS you use)

3. You messed something up. The most likely of possibilities. You should be able to change the boot order of the devices your computer will
boot from. If you want to boot from CD, it should be anywhere above the harddrive you boot from in the list.
Title: Re: Ubuntu help
Post by: trevelyn on March 20, 2008, 10:49:16 PM
option number 3 ??? "WHAT DO WE HAVE FOR HIM JOHNNY!?!?!" "AAAAAHHH NEWWWWW CARRRRR!!!!!!111/1/1"
Title: Re: Ubuntu help
Post by: Tachyon on March 20, 2008, 11:44:14 PM
You just have to switch crystals.
Title: Re: Ubuntu help
Post by: mr_doc on March 21, 2008, 04:33:27 AM
You can launch some linux installers from within windows.
Title: Re: Ubuntu help
Post by: MattGSX on March 25, 2008, 10:54:53 AM
Most computers will allow you to manually choose boot device at startup, bypassing any boot order options set in your BIOS, and getting around any issues with the hdd kicking in before you boot.

Are you sure the CD drive you're using can actually burn disks? The burning program will try utilizing this, but will just spit out empty disks. Check your documentation.

I was trying to think of some snarky comment, but I've totally got nothing.
Title: Re: Ubuntu help
Post by: Lord Valmont Illamato on March 25, 2008, 01:41:58 PM
You can launch some linux installers from within windows.
How would u go about loading linux within windows??
Title: Re: Ubuntu help
Post by: mr_doc on March 25, 2008, 03:14:26 PM
Use Alcohol 120% or Daemon Tools or something else to mount the iso and then double click the icon in 'my computer'
Title: Re: Ubuntu help
Post by: Lord Valmont Illamato on April 05, 2008, 11:05:46 AM
I finally got "Ubuntu". Now i juss need to figure out how it works and how to configure it to work with my built in wireless card. I figure it out, I am juss so excited tht i finally got rid of vista and now i am working with linux. Thanks for all your help, I appreciate it!!!
Title: Re: Ubuntu help
Post by: kom0dor on July 14, 2008, 10:53:45 PM
Congrats on getting Ubuntu installed. For future reference here's an alternate, albeit seemingly complex method:

My DVDRW drive blows, and correctly burns things about 25% of the time.

So, I resized my current partitions to create a 800MB partition, copied the contents of the downloaded ISO there, and booted from that partition. 

Note: you can use programs such as gparted, cfdisk, fdisk, resize2fs, mkfs, etc, for the above.

Also, you will have to configure your boot loader.

If you can indeed boot from your CD drive, you can usually find a live CD with gparted installed. Make sure you backup any important information before you mess with your partition table.

I use Zenwalk Linux, and FreeBSD, and installed them with the above method.

Ubuntu should now come with "wubi", which is a windows ubuntu installer if I recall correctly. I haven't used it, though, so use at your own discretion. I also have Xubuntu Hardy Heron installed on a laptop, but I installed with the alternate install CD, not wubi.

Also, you will want to mount the partition where the CD would normally be mounted during install if the OS you're installing is going to look for files there.

(Hopefully that was worth bringing this thread back up again.)
Title: Re: Ubuntu help
Post by: rogueclown on July 14, 2008, 11:25:17 PM
(Hopefully that was worth bringing this thread back up again.)

nothing is worth rescuscitating a three-month-old thread.
Title: Re: Ubuntu help
Post by: MattGSX on July 24, 2008, 02:25:48 PM
It was totally worth bumping.

In case anyone else is wondering, though, Wubi actually installs Ubuntu inside the Windows system. I don't know if this means both run at the same time, but you can actually manage your Ubuntu installation like an application inside Windows, and the entire Linux directory falls in one folder on your Windows tree. I can see good and bad for this, but in a situation like kom0dor's, this could really be an ideal solution. I dislike the lack of partitions and lack of a dedicated bootloader, though. I've lost Windows partitions before, which eliminates the possibility of using the second (Linux) partition for recovery.

My $.02
Title: Re: Ubuntu help
Post by: PHISH-PHREAK on July 24, 2008, 04:54:38 PM
my ubuntu machine is full of porn.
Title: Re: Ubuntu help
Post by: MattGSX on July 25, 2008, 04:55:41 AM
my ubuntu machine is full of porn.

I now have two Ubuntu machines. I just upgraded my work machine to 8.04 with Gnome, and I have a 500mhz PIII laptop (IBM 600X) that I *was* running Sidux on, but I did the minimal install for 8.04 and added IceWM and my basic apps. I tried Enlightenment, but I really wasn't crazy about it. I might try Fluxbox/Blackbox, but it's running pretty fast already.
Title: Re: Ubuntu help
Post by: kom0dor on July 26, 2008, 07:24:10 AM
In case anyone else is wondering, though, Wubi actually installs Ubuntu inside the Windows system. *snip*

Ah, thanks for clearing that up. I'm not really impressed with the idea of running Ubuntu like that.

I don't actually have a need for wubi, as I have Linux on three partitions (/boot, /, and /home), and freebsd on an ufs one. I have a dedicated Ubuntu machine, but it sits in the corner gathering dust.

Also, I love Fluxbox. It might not be the prettiest window manager ever, but I think it's the most efficient one I've used. Some points: Tabbed windows, window auto-grouping, being able to set window priority, simple configuration, and low resource usage. You can choose your own desktop/file manager though, since fluxbox doesn't include one. 

Also, I only resurrected this thread because I think that the way I installed Linux is useful, but uncommon. I thought it on topic, and the reply is now searchable for any lurkers out there about to post, "I can't install Ubuntu...", etc.  :P
Title: Re: Ubuntu help
Post by: rogueclown on July 26, 2008, 10:48:45 AM
i used Wubi for a while earlier this year.

was it a good permanent solution?  no.  but, was it a good way for someone who had never used linux before to give it a shot and learn some basics about it before i went about formatting my hard drive and installing it for real?  yeah.  i ran it for a month or so to gain some fluency with the environment and the commands, and make sure i could run everything i wanted to run, before i finally deleted windows.  Ubuntu definitely runs better alone than it does over Wubi, but it's a great way to dip your toes in if you're like me circa March of this year, and lacked the confidence in your computer skills to install a new, as-yet-unfamiliar OS.

and, as for the resurrection of the thread...i was kidding more than anything, when i said no thread was worth resurrecting like that.  there has been useful information in it, so it's clearly worth resurrecting.  i can be a bit of a snarky ass on the internet, and i apologize to anyone i offended.
Title: Re: Ubuntu help
Post by: MattGSX on July 28, 2008, 02:54:57 PM
i used Wubi for a while earlier this year.

was it a good permanent solution?  no.  but, was it a good way for someone who had never used linux before to give it a shot and learn some basics about it before i went about formatting my hard drive and installing it for real?  yeah.  i ran it for a month or so to gain some fluency with the environment and the commands, and make sure i could run everything i wanted to run, before i finally deleted windows.  Ubuntu definitely runs better alone than it does over Wubi, but it's a great way to dip your toes in if you're like me circa March of this year, and lacked the confidence in your computer skills to install a new, as-yet-unfamiliar OS.

and, as for the resurrection of the thread...i was kidding more than anything, when i said no thread was worth resurrecting like that.  there has been useful information in it, so it's clearly worth resurrecting.  i can be a bit of a snarky ass on the internet, and i apologize to anyone i offended.

+1 for use of the word snarky. No harm done.

kom0dor - For fluxbox, I've always had the best experience running Midnight Commander as a file manager, though you may be able to install thunar. The only downside I have with fluxbox is having to edit text files to change even the simplest of settings, though I do know that's what makes it so expandable, so I'd deal.