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Other Stuff That Has Little To Do With PLA => Techinical Shit => Phreaking, Hacking, Social Engineering, Lock Picking => Topic started by: Robo22 on December 18, 2009, 10:09:19 AM

Title: I have a question.
Post by: Robo22 on December 18, 2009, 10:09:19 AM
I've heard that people are now sitting in walmarts parking lots with lap tops and waiting for people to unlock or lock there door on there cars and then once they do that they still that frequecy and use it to start the car or unlock it and the steal wats inside and then lock it back with the signal they got. So yeah how can I do this?
Title: Re: I have a question.
Post by: RushPwnsX on December 18, 2009, 11:04:49 AM
In my experience the best method is breaking a window and unlocking the door through the broken window. If anyone sees you, alls you have to do is kill them.
Title: Re: I have a question.
Post by: Nod on December 18, 2009, 12:58:28 PM
In my experience the best method is breaking a window and unlocking the door through the broken window. If anyone sees you, alls you have to do is kill them.

This. Just, this.
Title: Re: I have a question.
Post by: trevelyn on December 19, 2009, 08:58:53 PM
In my experience the best method is breaking a window and unlocking the door through the broken window. If anyone sees you, alls you have to do is kill them.

+1 1337
Title: Re: I have a question.
Post by: murd0c on December 20, 2009, 06:53:25 AM
Watch that scene in the 1999 verson of 'Gone in 60 Seconds'. They more-or-less do exactly what the OP describes, except they steal the car.

So long story short, you cannot do this.
Title: Re: I have a question.
Post by: rbcp on December 20, 2009, 02:41:35 PM
About 10 years ago there was a lot of news about people who were using a program on their Palms to intercept door unlock codes on certain models of cars.  I guess these cars actually used IR and not RF on their keychain remotes.  Do any cars still use IR?  I've never seen one that does.
Title: Re: I have a question.
Post by: nyphonejacks on December 20, 2009, 07:19:15 PM
i have never seen any car alarms or remote door locks that used IR... all the ones that i am aware of have always used RF...


assuming that you knew what frequency the specific alarm or remote door lock used... and assuming that this information was not encrypted... i could see that this might be possible with a radio scanner, and some additional hardware to record the data signals being sent to the reciever from the keychain remote...

sounds completely possible that something like this could work...
Title: Re: I have a question.
Post by: Godot on December 21, 2009, 06:45:09 PM
This could work on older cars, but modern cars use a rolling code (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rolling_code) system that is designed prevents this type of attack.
Title: Re: I have a question.
Post by: MattGSX on December 22, 2009, 02:17:44 PM
The fear of having my codez intercepted and having my car stolen or robbed is just another reason that I don't have a car.

Plus I'm poor.

Side note: I have saved over $400 in my new apartment by switching ISP's from Time Warner to "my neighbor doesn't understand wpa".
Title: Re: I have a question.
Post by: trevelyn on January 02, 2010, 08:49:45 AM
The fear of having my codez intercepted and having my car stolen or robbed is just another reason that I don't have a car.

Plus I'm poor.

Side note: I have saved over $400 in my new apartment by switching ISP's from Time Warner to "my neighbor doesn't understand wpa".

more like "my neighbor used wpa and i understand the aircrack-ng suite too well."

:P