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Other Stuff That Has Little To Do With PLA => General Discussions => Music => Topic started by: MattGSX on April 12, 2007, 10:43:39 PM
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So, what do you get when you combine electronica, punk rock, tragically hip fashion, a completely tone deaf lead singer, off the wall Art Deco semi-post modernist song titles, and solid backing from MTV?
Why, you get Panic! At the Disco.
I know I'm pretty late jumping on this bandwagon, but lately I've been pretty good about insulating myself from pop culture. I don't have cable and I generally only watch/listen to streamed radio, NPR, or local programming. Unfortunately, MTV invaded my university and put these stupid fucking TVs in all the common areas that blast MTV-U 24/7.
I. Swear. This band makes me want to die. I thought that Fall Out Boy was pretentious and unbearable, but FUCK. Add electronic sounding drums and you're in fucking business. I don't get all these borderline hipster emo-rock bands that are coming out. Do I get scene points for listening to something pretentious, but then also lose points for listening to something publicly accepted? Either way, I can feel my IQ dropping every time I wonder why you'd bother chiming in with "Haven't you ever heard of closing the goddamn door?".
I think I'm going to write a Panic! song. I'll make a little diagram for you guys, so you can make one at home.
Repetitive melodic/creepy intro.
Drum-rocked intro, repeated a few times, becomes the chorus.
Verse that just repeats one or two lines a few times, using that melodic line from the intro.
Chorus, using the second intro, along with the same vocals.
Second verse, same as the first.
Chorus.
Chorus.
Bridge, using either the verse without words or some variation of the chorus.
Spoken version of chorus or part of a verse.
Chorus
Chorus
Chorus
Show off your vintage jeans with sport coat ensemble.
Chorus
Chorus
Do some of those "ohs" and "yeahs" that haven't been cool since Everclear.
Chorus.
Now all you have to do is think of some snappy and random title, like "Your take on the scene is my escape route" or, stated better, "I think I'm witty and the modern manifestation of a Kafka-esque take on art and pop culture, but I'm really just a douche". Seriously, between this shit, My Chemical Romance, Hawthorne Heights, Fall Out Boy, and the new AFI, MTV has warped the minds of an entire generation of sheep and convinced them that listening to crappy music, growing out one side of your hair, dressing like a mod with makeup, and spouting psudo-intellectual bullshit while whining about girls and/or contemplating suicide is socially acceptable. These people should be segregated from society and not be allowed to reproduce. Actually, I think they should just be exterminated. I'm sure rehabilitation is possible, but I don't think it's worth it. I do not want to have all these My Chemical Panic! kids alive and latching onto something else, dragging it into the ground and allowing MTV, the self-proclaimed god of pop-culture for the 14-25 year old to commercialize it. God forbid.
Chorus.
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Word!
btw. What do you think about Wolfmother ?
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1337 points for using Kafka-esque correctly in post. I can't listen to any of those guys. With the exception of two songs by Jimmy Eat World and one by Jimmy's Chicken Shack I can say that I hate any emo song regardless of whether I've heard it or not. Panic! At the disco is no different. Except that I have heard their songs on mtv and I can honestly say that they suck. What I don't get is this whole scene they've got going. They're like goths that are lazy so they just half ass on everything, especially the music. When I was a kid it was the rap groups, the alternative/metal, a few punk (Oi oi oi!) kids and the "whatever they play on the radio" kids. Then a little later they added the goth scene which was an offshoot of the alternative/metal scene as a more industrial sound of metal (Lots of synths, tuned down guitars, and creepy looking frontmen). This group's modus operandi was misery, self hatred, and for the hardcore "cutting." {FULL DISCLOSURE: I did temporarily engage in goth behaviour. I have come to terms with this. I did not, however, engage in cutting. It seemed fucking stupid to me. I'm not going to mutilate myself to "ease the pain." That's what drugs and alcohol are for!} {FULL DISCLOSURE: That last sentence was in fact one of the jokes in this post. See if you can find the others!} I think, that emo is the bastard child of punk and goth. Oh, I forgot to do punk didn't I? Well, I'm just going to assume you all know the history of punk. How Green Day saved it and then killed it and drank its fucking blood from its severed neck so that bands like Blink182 and Sum41 could get rich off of something they had no business even calling themselves. That being punk. So anyways, punk and goth make this fucked up kid from suburbia who decides that he wants to be part of something, but he's not quite sure what. So he says "I like rock and roll a lot and I'm not into hip hop so I'm not going to be a hip hop head" and rules out that. Then he thinks "Well, I'm not really into metal so that's not for me either." And that was crossed off the list. "Gosh," he ponders, "goth looks kind of stupid so I'm not going to do that." Anyways, the punchline is he choses emo and it turns out the reason he's been screaming about hating girls for so long is that he's gay.
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What a beautiful rant. Thanks for the leet point.
I'm reminded of the "emo" video on Youtube. It's pretty lame for being done to Final Fantasy CGI clips, but pretty awesome for the music. "She said she has a pussy; she doesn't need another one". Brilliant.
I forgot about Jimmy Eat World and Modest Mouse, the forerunner to all this bullshit, along with Wolfmother and Franz Ferdinand, the ugly "hard-rock" cousin of the emo-rock bastard child. I should make a genealogy of crappy modern music, starting with downward slope of rock and roll icons and fashion punk bands. I blame Fugazi and Minor Threat.
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I have all of Panic! At the Disco on my Ipod. Lot of Jimmy Eat World tracks too. Even Hawthorne Heights. I am not cool.
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I have all of Panic! At the Disco on my Ipod. Lot of Jimmy Eat World tracks too. Even Hawthorne Heights. I am not cool.
No, but you are old, and that lets you get away with stuff like that. My mom listens to some pretty MTV-generation accepted music too. Last time I went over there for lunch I heard her humming "Ridin' Dirty", which sounds pretty funny coming from a 50 year old post-menopausal woman.
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your mom's vagina feels pretty good for post-menopause
Little do you know, that was actually his dad.
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your mom's vagina feels pretty good for post-menopause
Little do you know, that was actually his dad.
Actually it was his mom and his dad. MattGSX is actually the spawn of an asexually reproducing alien come to take over the Earth.
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Goatse is from outer space?
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I thought everyone knew that?
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HOLY SHIT! I'm from outer space? Awesome
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Can I have some Alien goo so I can breed a Hybrid?
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For faggy emo electronica-esque hipster bands, Pretty Girls Make Graves are pretty good. Panic At the Disco, however, is shite.
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For burnt-out crazy gay dudes, murdoc sure is. IS
Who is murdoc? I'm Murd0c.
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Panic! At the Disco I actually think puts an interesting spin on pop music. I like them a lot and their music is really catchy. They have a schtik, but it's cute and at least they're not out making the scene with Pete Wentz.
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Part of the reason I don't like them is because they were an engineered band. Have you heard of anyone who knew about Panic! before they became an MTV poster child? I don't know if MTV or their label literally put them together, but their fan base is entirely people who were told to listen to them through marketability.
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Pete Doherty Would totally fuck Panic! at the disco, if he wasn't on drugs all day long
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Can I have some Alien goo so I can breed a Hybrid?
(http://www.rense.com/1.halloween04/hybridL.jpg)
I just hope man can evolve into a master race of telepaths before the aliens come to probe us all and mix with our species!
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Part of the reason I don't like them is because they were an engineered band. Have you heard of anyone who knew about Panic! before they became an MTV poster child? I don't know if MTV or their label literally put them together, but their fan base is entirely people who were told to listen to them through marketability.
Actually, yes. My younger cousin from Jersey actually turned me onto them Christmas of 2005, definitely a couple of months before I ever saw them on MTV with "I Write Sins not Tragedies." I believe they did have quite a bit of a following before they really struck it huge. Actually I just read a little bio on them that says they began in 2005, album out in Sept. 2005, and didn't hit top 40 til sometime early 2006. First TRL appearance on January 17.
Also, they came together from high school and posted some demos online. Pete Wentz (AT LEAST THEY DON'T PARTY WITH HIM) discovered them and had them signed, took them out on tour.
I don't think there's anything wrong with them. They had a good thing, built a fan base online and on tour through catchy tunes and a fun schtik...
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I think that some emo music is good (like Motion City Soundtrack, I love those guys), but I also think that emo music really encourages depression. I'm no psychologist, but I think that listening to so much depressing music (emo) kind of desensitizes the listener from depression, and makes it more acceptable in their eyes, and consequentially, the listener becomes depressed more. I think emo also encourages depression because the genre makes depression look cool, and also couples depression with self-righteousness. For all of you non-depressed people out there, I reccomend you stay away from emo.
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Actually, yes. My younger cousin from Jersey actually turned me onto them Christmas of 2005, definitely a couple of months before I ever saw them on MTV with "I Write Sins not Tragedies." I believe they did have quite a bit of a following before they really struck it huge. Actually I just read a little bio on them that says they began in 2005, album out in Sept. 2005, and didn't hit top 40 til sometime early 2006. First TRL appearance on January 17.
Also, they came together from high school and posted some demos online. Pete Wentz (AT LEAST THEY DON'T PARTY WITH HIM) discovered them and had them signed, took them out on tour.
I don't think there's anything wrong with them. They had a good thing, built a fan base online and on tour through catchy tunes and a fun schtik...
I stand corrected. I was under the impression they were an assembled band. Thank you for letting me know that.
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I think that some emo music is good (like Motion City Soundtrack, I love those guys), but I also think that emo music really encourages depression. I'm no psychologist, but I think that listening to so much depressing music (emo) kind of desensitizes the listener from depression, and makes it more acceptable in their eyes, and consequentially, the listener becomes depressed more. I think emo also encourages depression because the genre makes depression look cool, and also couples depression with self-righteousness. For all of you non-depressed people out there, I reccomend you stay away from emo.
On the other hand, maybe listening to nonstop depressing music helps people deal with depression better.
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Part of the reason I don't like them is because they were an engineered band. Have you heard of anyone who knew about Panic! before they became an MTV poster child? I don't know if MTV or their label literally put them together, but their fan base is entirely people who were told to listen to them through marketability.
This is pretty much my impression of the entire emo 'culture', 'phenomenon' or whatever the hell they call it. It's all corporations taking advantage of youth angst and fooling them into thinking it's distinctive and original. Now presenting the revolution, brought to you by Converse.
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brought to you by Converse.
Wrong, Converse is a daughter company of Nike. So it's brought to you by Nike.
Don't do it ;D
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Just thinking about all this and seeing how far it all got carried made me realize that my hate for Panic! at the Disco is nothing compared to my hate for My Chemical Romance, but I'd rather not start another thread of essentially the same thing.
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HIM pwns MCR and Panic! at the Disco.
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HIM pwns MCR and Panic! at the Disco.
Um, HIM sucks just as bad as the other two.
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HIM is pretty fucking terrible. I heard a cover of don't fear the reaper. It was an ear rape.
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HIM pwns MCR and Panic! at the Disco.
HIM is horrible! I'll take Panic! At the Disco and MCR, thanks :)
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Dropkick Murphy's Own all ;D
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Wow, sarcasm wasted again.
Dropkick Murphy is punk not emo.
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they're oi! not punk
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they're oi! not punk
Really crappy oi at that.
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new genre:
"drunken idiots only" music
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If they're oi then M is for Moped isn't a one-man ripoff of They Might Be Giants operating falsely under the pretense that one day I'll mix in some electronic stuff.
I'd call them the bastard child of oi and drunken frat boy music.
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greenday = / = punk
dm = /= punk
greenday = dm
GAY!
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greenday = / = punk
dm = /= punk
greenday = dm
GAY!
You think Depeche Mode is gay?
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do you have the new de-peche mode record?
yeah, but it sucks.
well, do you have the new pixies album?
Yeah, it sucks. All that new stuff sucks.
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If they're oi then M is for Moped isn't a one-man ripoff of They Might Be Giants operating falsely under the pretense that one day I'll mix in some electronic stuff.
I'd call them the bastard child of oi and drunken frat boy music.
ugh TMBG.
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Ugh NWA.
TMBG has more originality than every mod-rock band combined.
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yeah except that the 80s happened before tmbg.
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touche
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I like some TMBG but I said ugh because there was this long, rabbling documentary on Sundance about TMBG a while ago and when ever I think about TMBG I think about that shitty movie.
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Haste the Day.
end of story.
amazing band.
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Haste the Day.
end of story.
amazing band.
Christianity has no place in secular music. Ever.
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Didn't NOFX make one of those christian bands cry and run away from the warped tour on year?
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Haste the Day.
end of story.
amazing band.
Christianity has no place in secular music. Ever.
Their religion does not detract from their amazingness.
but point taken.
let see...
Rancid?
Misfits?
I CLEARLY HAVE NO IDEA WHAT I'M TALKING ABOUT, EVER..
not my style.
um.
Autumn Offering,
Mortal Treason...
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I like my religion bad.
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HI MY NAME IS M0RDEKAI AND I LISTEN TO PANIC AT THE DISCO! LOOK AT MY HAIR IT IS SO CRAZY!
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I don't know what that is but I'm against it.
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zLOL
murd0c that was uncalled for!
(but totally hilarious)
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Here's a video of the lead singer of Panic At The Disco getting hit with a bottled and knocked the fuck out while performing on stage, which by my standards is the exact definition of comedy.
http://youtube.com/watch?v=7YHLPjEQL0A
Update: My own mediocre attempt at humor has been highly amusing to myself. i smoked too much pot and forgot the link. Lordnod hit the nail right on the head.
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z3wb forgot the link. STOP SMOKING WEED Z3WB! YOU'RE FORGETTING WHAT YOU'RE DOI- Hey, I found a nickel!
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Christianity has no place in secular music. Ever.
I disagree. I prefer new music coming out of the Christian music industry more than I prefer music coming out of the main stream. Christian bands have the advantage of having a message that will be generally accepted by most of their fan base, so they're more free to take liberties with the actual music than bands that aren't going to have a large base because of an implied shared faith.
Granted, because of that whole "I'm in it for the message" thing, there ARE a lot of crappy Christian bands, but I think the gold found there is worth much more than the garbage.
However, M0rdekai does need a haircut. YOU NEED A HAIRCUT, M0RDEKAI!!!
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However, M0rdekai does need a haircut. YOU NEED A HAIRCUT, M0RDEKAI!!!
And probably to stop shopping for jeans in the girls section of stores.
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HI MY NAME IS M0RDEKAI AND I LISTEN TO PANIC AT THE DISCO! LOOK AT MY HAIR IT IS SO CRAZY!
But dude, he doesn't even care that he's having his picture taken, just look at the disenchanted look in his eyes.
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HI MY NAME IS M0RDEKAI AND I LISTEN TO PANIC AT THE DISCO! LOOK AT MY HAIR IT IS SO CRAZY!
But dude, he doesn't even care that he's having his picture taken, just look at the disenchanted look in his eyes.
I know, right?
MYSPACE!!!!
XD
omg!
murd0c is FLAMING ME!!!
i feel so special!!!
=]
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HI MY NAME IS M0RDEKAI AND I LISTEN TO PANIC AT THE DISCO! LOOK AT MY HAIR IT IS SO CRAZY!
PaTD = ewwwwwwwww.
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That makes me think of John Travolta for some reason.
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I agree.
I type
like this
it's kind of like haiku.
Am i introspective?
no
i'm just M0rdekai.
QUIT TYPING LIKE THAT, M0RDEKAI!
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This just went all clusterfuck, so I'm locking the thread. If you want a debate about religion in music, start a new thread and don't just turn it into a flame war.