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easier blue box
« on: June 26, 2007, 07:19:22 AM »
hey, i had a an idea i think... wait.. no? YEAH! yeah i did. okay ready?

I am incapable of basic II stamp work, and am an ameteur at teh soldering Iron.
So, If i ever made a blue box (the real way) that would r0x.  so, back to reality,
The project MF asterisk mods seem to be pretty sensative, and the timing on the switches that are still blue boxable theres days are all different.  So i was thinking a few days ago about a ghetto blue box.

like what if i used an old keypad from a phone, a project box from rat shack, and 13 (0-9 KP ST (mapped to * and #) and 2600 (mapped to an extra button i guess)) recordable gift cards. Rip out the recording shit and throw the cards in the rubbish, record the tones made with soundforge, and "injected" physically into the mic line (rather than putting a speaker up to the mic) and soldering them all parallel to an output headphone jack, after ripping off the the little speakers.  ???  close up the box, and yeah well, ghetto..

but I CLEARLY HAVE NO IDEA WHAT I'M TALKING ABOUT, EVER., any better ideas?  (besides learning basic stamp II and soldering classes (i have not the time regretably))

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Re: easier blue box
« Reply #1 on: June 26, 2007, 02:58:20 PM »
That sounds intensely cool. I'm waiting to have enough money to get the HOPE 6 DVDs about project MF.
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Re: easier blue box
« Reply #2 on: June 26, 2007, 03:03:33 PM »
sweet.  thats all  =]

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Re: easier blue box
« Reply #3 on: June 26, 2007, 03:08:52 PM »
i just realised that the money it will take to pay for the cards, would add up to the same amount of money it would take to pay someone to build a real one.  13 (recordable hallmark cards $15 each My own mediocre attempt at humor has been highly amusing to myself.) http://www.gmkmg.com/card_record.htm

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Re: easier blue box
« Reply #4 on: June 26, 2007, 03:27:17 PM »
Soldering isn't that hard, I learned when I was ten. I'd feel lame using a bluebox I didn't make myself, it's like a jedi's lightsabre or something.

Wow, that's the nerdiest analogy of all time.
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Re: easier blue box
« Reply #5 on: June 26, 2007, 03:29:24 PM »
i can solder most ss components okay, but when it comes down to the pins of an IC, i muck it up.  and i dont think you really could put one to good use these days, but i just wanted one.  I think they are neat.

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Re: easier blue box
« Reply #6 on: June 26, 2007, 06:19:14 PM »
You have tried ProjectMF at 630-485-2995, haven't you? Get a software box and try it ou!

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Re: easier blue box
« Reply #7 on: June 26, 2007, 06:22:36 PM »
i can solder most ss components okay, but when it comes down to the pins of an IC, i muck it up.  and i dont think you really could put one to good use these days, but i just wanted one.  I think they are neat.

Well you can use it with Project MF. As far as IC pins go, I'd advise winding some non-galvanized steel or copper wire around the tip of the iron to basically elongate and greatly reduce the size of the tip.
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Re: easier blue box
« Reply #8 on: June 27, 2007, 06:26:46 AM »
You have tried ProjectMF at 630-485-2995, haven't you? Get a software box and try it ou!

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Re: easier blue box
« Reply #9 on: July 06, 2007, 11:47:09 AM »
i re-read this and decided that i am very interested in this.  and i will help you however you need help.  im very good with hardware and building electronics.  i have an idea to an attachment for this.  if you want help you can email me or PM me.  have you completed it?

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Re: easier blue box
« Reply #10 on: July 06, 2007, 06:06:01 PM »
i can solder most ss components okay, but when it comes down to the pins of an IC, i muck it up.  and i dont think you really could put one to good use these days, but i just wanted one.  I think they are neat.

DIL socket. You solder that in and then insert the IC.
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Re: easier blue box
« Reply #11 on: July 06, 2007, 06:46:28 PM »
Get a breadboard. That way you won't have to solder anything. Why can't you use the Basic Stamp II? It really is quite easy. In fact, I will post schematics and code for Basic Stamp II blue box (and red box, too) if any of you are interested in building one. Alternatively, you could be old fashioned and build a bunch of oscillators and connect them to a keypad. That way is a bit harder, but not too hard.
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Re: easier blue box
« Reply #12 on: July 07, 2007, 05:39:01 PM »
I CLEARLY HAVE NO IDEA WHAT I'M TALKING ABOUT, EVER. godot, i never really tried to use one thats all. The kit was only $80 at the time for the basic II beginners set and i didnt have the money i guess.  what is it? an IC mounter that is USB for you to put code into PROMs?

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Re: easier blue box
« Reply #13 on: July 08, 2007, 09:21:21 AM »
i just realised that the money it will take to pay for the cards, would add up to the same amount of money it would take to pay someone to build a real one.  13 (recordable hallmark cards $15 each My own mediocre attempt at humor has been highly amusing to myself.) http://www.gmkmg.com/card_record.htm

man...

Usually when one takes the "easier" route to accomplishing something it ends up costing alot more than if you were to buy/have someone do it for you and sometimes results in serious injury.... but the experience you gain may or may not be worth it...

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Re: easier blue box
« Reply #14 on: July 08, 2007, 04:57:28 PM »
I CLEARLY HAVE NO IDEA WHAT I'M TALKING ABOUT, EVER. godot, i never really tried to use one thats all. The kit was only $80 at the time for the basic II beginners set and i didnt have the money i guess.  what is it? an IC mounter that is USB for you to put code into PROMs?

Pretty much. It is a (re)programmable IC with a serial interface to download programs. Most BS2 kits now come with a USB-to-Serial since USB is more common now. It is fairly expensive, as you've seen. The IC itself is $50. It is cheaper than the hallmark cards, though.
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