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Payphone Table
« on: September 19, 2008, 10:24:29 AM »
So I saw this and immediately had an idea in my head. There are a few phones around here that do nothing but take heavy abuse from either racial slurs, gang graffiti or cigarettes and gum. There aren't many and at this moment they're too far out for me to waste gas in my battle wagon.

I want to save these phones, put use back in them. I wanted to grab 8 of them, because in some of the worse parts of town no one would miss the dealer's inability to to hang around waiting for incoming calls. It would be illegal, but in my opinion, worth it.

Now what I need from you, Brad, is a measurement of your phone. Width and length.

My idea is to weld two phones on top of each other for the legs. I haven't decided if I want to make a dining table out of it yet or a coffee table or just a work table for various computer going ons. Either way I want to set this table up. More than likely it'll either be an work bench or coffee table.

This thing will be super convenient. What I want to do is run a line up from the ground, make one of the phones active much like the phone on your kitchen wall. So this way when I'm either just laying down next to the phone or working, I'll have the phone right there. CONVENIENCE!

The only problem with this idea is that:
A) I've never welded steel before. Aside from a few crystals or something on a circuit board
B) I need to choose a table top that won't mesh horribly with the phone design.

Now that I think of it it might be more fun to create a computer desk from this. I'm open to suggestions on which style of table should be built.

Get me those measurements, Arbie. I refuse to use Google. You also owe me for making me throw up. 

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Re: Payphone Table
« Reply #1 on: September 19, 2008, 10:40:21 AM »
That'll be one heavy table.  I hope you make the "legs" removable in case you ever need to move it.  Here are the measurements:

Height - 20 3/4"
Width - 7 1/2"
Depth - 6 1/2"

It'd be cooler to set up a long bank of pay phones on one of your walls.  Or maybe just mount a pay phone in every room of the house, even one next to the toilet.  If they're COCOTS, be careful about plugging them into a phone line.  It might attempt to call the owner's home/business to transmit sales info. 

Your idea reminds me of this.  Maybe that'll be the new thing, figuring out new ways to put those old pay phones to use.  Seems like pay phones should be getting cheaper for normal people to buy, now that they're taking them all off the streets.  All of the ones that are disappearing where I live are Qwest phones.  All that's going to be left soon are COCOTS.

Fun fact about owning a Bell pay phone: It's a coin-operated red box!  When you call someone and deposit money, they hear the corresponding red box tones.  I wonder if I could get arrested for owning a toll fraud device.

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Re: Payphone Table
« Reply #2 on: September 19, 2008, 10:53:54 AM »
That'll be one heavy table.  I hope you make the "legs" removable in case you ever need to move it.

My plan is to make the legs stand alone and create something under the table top that would either click the legs into place or just firmly slide down on them. I might try and create a locking brace for the back of the phone to possibly avoid welding them together.

And on the subject of the coin operated red box: YAY! I CAN HELP RECORD FOR  A DEVICE THAT WILL SOON HAVE NO USE!  :-[

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Re: Payphone Table
« Reply #3 on: September 19, 2008, 11:09:18 AM »

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Re: Payphone Table
« Reply #4 on: September 19, 2008, 11:17:35 AM »
Current bid of 43 bucks, shipping cost of 45. After it's all said and done with the bidding it could easily reach 100+ bucks. That would be at least 800 just for the legs of the table and then the other cash I'd be paying for the table top.

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Re: Payphone Table
« Reply #5 on: September 19, 2008, 12:57:07 PM »
The phone company is probably just going to remove the phones and melt them down. so your theft is justified.

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Re: Payphone Table
« Reply #6 on: September 19, 2008, 01:30:45 PM »
The phone company is probably just going to remove the phones and melt them down. so your theft is justified.

Theft is always justified. After all, they ripped us off first.

1993= 4-5 dollars a minuet to call long distance. amirite? At least that's what the rate seemed like when I talked long distance for only a few hours to family without fully understanding that you were going to be ripped off out the wazoo.

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Re: Payphone Table
« Reply #7 on: September 19, 2008, 03:05:06 PM »
I drove to town today, and I have one question: How the hell are you going to steal a fifty pound payphone at all? After a very thorough examination, I discovered that there are these things called metal and concrete. And the metal phone stand just happens to be mounted to this so-called concrete. So I guess you could always knock it down with your car, or do you have a better idea?

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Re: Payphone Table
« Reply #8 on: September 19, 2008, 03:53:28 PM »
Middle of the night and a crow bar.

Cha-ching.

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Re: Payphone Table
« Reply #9 on: September 19, 2008, 04:47:42 PM »
I drove to town today, and I have one question: How the hell are you going to steal a fifty pound payphone at all? After a very thorough examination, I discovered that there are these things called metal and concrete. And the metal phone stand just happens to be mounted to this so-called concrete. So I guess you could always knock it down with your car, or do you have a better idea?

All you need is a wrench.  The metal phone stand is bolted to the concrete, not buried in it.

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Re: Payphone Table
« Reply #10 on: September 19, 2008, 04:57:47 PM »
I drove to town today, and I have one question: How the hell are you going to steal a fifty pound payphone at all? After a very thorough examination, I discovered that there are these things called metal and concrete. And the metal phone stand just happens to be mounted to this so-called concrete. So I guess you could always knock it down with your car, or do you have a better idea?

All you need is a wrench.  The metal phone stand is bolted to the concrete, not buried in it.

I planned on getting the ones that were literally down dark ally ways at night. I don't see any way for me to get any of my wrenches to the position of just taking them from the wall themselves. Though if I went out and spent 10 bucks at Home Depot I'm sure I could get the correct length wrenches no problem.

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Re: Payphone Table
« Reply #11 on: September 21, 2008, 02:03:29 PM »
Studied carefully, a modern payphone reveals itself as a little fortress, carefully designed and redesigned over generations, to resist coin-slugs, zaps of electricity, chunks of coin-shaped ice, prybars, magnets, lockpicks, blasting caps.  Public payphones must survive in a world of unfriendly, greedy people, and a modern payphone is as exquisitely evolved as a cactus.

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Re: Payphone Table
« Reply #12 on: September 21, 2008, 03:33:28 PM »
How were you planning on transporting the massive armored payphone away after taking it off? Make sure to lift with your legs not your back, you could give yourself a hernia lifting it otherwise.
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Re: Payphone Table
« Reply #13 on: September 21, 2008, 04:27:51 PM »
How were you planning on transporting the massive armored payphone away after taking it off? Make sure to lift with your legs not your back, you could give yourself a hernia lifting it otherwise.

Planned on using the trunk of my car. Duh. They can't weigh any more than a hundred pounds. So there's no worry about the weight.

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Re: Payphone Table
« Reply #14 on: October 09, 2008, 01:06:35 PM »
All the talk about stealing payphones brings back a fond memory...

Near where I lived when going to high school was a little country store... kind of in the middle of nowhere but also at the intersection of 5 roads with homes at each corner and a church behind it. The store was far enough from the main highway to not worry about a lot of traffic and due to the intersection the way it was gave plenty of option if a hasty retreat became necessary. Our target was a little payphone bolted to the cinder block wall on an unlit corner of the store. This phone was one of those that were in the metal shell to protect it from the weather. There was a top piece that had the ma bell logo and a light behind illuminating it. Our initial survey was to examine the key locks to see how hard it would be able to make a master and/or pick the lock. We had heard that sometimes these phones could hold hundreds of dollars and that was more than enough motivation for two unemployed tween-agers.

My friend was more adventurous than technical minded (altho I did later teach him a lot about the local slick stations, how to get inside, and what was possible once we were in) and I was the hacker/phreak/idea man - so together we were trouble waiting to happen.

With the help of my dad we made a key for the front plate that covers the hole where the money box is located. We could see that this plate locked in all four directions and we thought this would be all that we needed. (Later we learned that there is another key on the bottom left side that must be turned first before the front plate can be removed. This other key was set on an electromagnetic (floating) pin set making it essentially pick-proof) So after learning that our make shift key would not do the job alone we decided best to take the entire phone, and then, while in the safety of our home (and daylight) examine the keyway again and try to forge a key.

We came up with a plan. I knew the phone was held to the wall with at least 4 bolts, but since we couldn't find their heads we would have to cut them. My friend's step dad was somehow into pest control and had all kinds of interesting chemicals at his disposal - one in particular being HCL (hydro-chloric acid). The idea? Pour the HCL behind the phone use it to cut the bolts. We had a crow-bar to pry the phone free in case it became stuck and a 3-Wheeler was our getaway vehicle.

If anyone knows chemistry, you immediately see my number on mistake... HCL is used to *CLEAN* metal, Sulfuric Acid would be needed to cut it. The second mistake: since the HCL was in a plastic bottle we thought it must be weak - only later did we notice the walls of the bottle were over an inch thick all the way around. So here we find ourselves cautiously pouring HCL behind a payphone attached to a cinder block wall in what was basically a country subdivision. We poured a little... no reaction. This convinced us that the contents really were weak so we poured*A LOT*.

Thirty seconds later we have run from the store, gasping for our breath in which a mushroom cloud of acidic reaction had stolen as it enveloped the store. A few minutes pass as the wind blows the cloud away, our breath and our confidence return and we push the 3-wheeler up near the phone. Taking the crow bar, I wedge it between the phone and the wall and push with all my might... it gives easily?!? But the phone didn't move at all?!? I take stock of the crow-bar and freak! It bent! It bent my dad's crow-bar! He is going to kill me! Damn! Then my friend says, "Hey aren't crow-bars bent like that from the factory?" I look again. What I had bent was the wall. The HCL had dissolved the cinder block wall - that is what had made the gas-cloud and stolen our breath.

Our excitement renewed we worked with the crow-bar pulling and twisting on the phone getting it closer and closer to being free (the bolts to the wall are obscenely long - at least they seemed that way, shining like brand new) We had a chain with us, looped it over the phone and attached to the 3-wheeler. One quick tug *BAM* phone hits the ground 3-wheeler dies. We have made a lot of noise and it is nearing 5 to 5:30 am so we know we need to get out of there ASAP. We wrap the phone in our shirts so as not to burn ourselves or the seat with any remaining HCL. I start the 3-wheeler... ... ... it was still in gear, it rares up *BAM* knocks the phone off, dies again. DAMN! Reload the phone, put it in neutral, start up, and haul ass back to my house.

*Ticka, Ticka, Ticka* What is that sound?

*Ticka, Ticka, Ticka* *Honk, Honk*

A car passes us. We look back. The receiver has fallen, dragging on the concrete and shooting sparks. We quickly pull over, my friend throws the handset around his neck like a scarf and we quickly make our way home.

Fun facts later learned:
(1) You can't get rich when the money box held only $5 in silver...
(2) Electromagnetic floating pins lock? Beyond my ability to hack...
(3) They call them 'Fortress Phones' for a reason - the black metal alloy dispels heat unbelievably so! Holding a hot acetylene torch on the corner for 3 minutes and as soon as I remove the flame, I can safely place my hand on the phone?!?! Alien metal?!?! The way we finally got inside the thing was to use tools to bend the metal while we heated it and eventually (after a half tank of acetylene) we were able to separate it and get inside... to our reward of $5 dollars in (black-smut covered) silver... which i placed in a sink of cold water because the change *DID* hold the heat and burnt me ever so slightly!
(4) It's fun to steal a payphone
(5) No matter how hard you think you plan, there will always be surprises... :)
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