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Re: cheating husband
« Reply #30 on: January 17, 2010, 10:49:55 PM »
I had the account before we met, and there's no reason for her to have access to it, since I pay the bill. Come to think of it, my account on Cal's was set up right around the same time. 7 years is a long time to be with the same provider... Time to switch

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Re: cheating husband
« Reply #31 on: January 17, 2010, 10:56:47 PM »
A lot of guests reading this atm. Get lives I mean come on lol it's like 2 am jeezeses. Get friends, losers. Be more like me, I see my friends every few months when they get my messages (my friends have phone trouble a lot).

Goddamn, I hope this truth syrum wears off that the CIA totally used on me 'cause I have super import information please delete this i;m, not even using correct grammar or boyhering to erace now oh god i dond know how to spell erace but i can t use sepell chekc cause im ranitgn like a


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Re: cheating husband
« Reply #32 on: January 17, 2010, 11:19:20 PM »
Woot double post.  :(

I just wanted to say that I am sorry for being a prick. My MySpace girlfriend is on her period and won't let me have im sex with her. And I was really looking forward to it even tho I keep cumming after about 2 minutes of the im sex.
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Re: cheating husband
« Reply #33 on: January 18, 2010, 06:36:37 AM »

Yeah, if you fear that your husband is cheating, then there is a real problem with your relationship that needs to be fixed more than you catching him or spying on him.State your fears to him directly and ask him what happened in the relationship that caused it. Do not do this in a confrontational or aggressive manner; that will only cause him to become defensive, evasive, etc, etc. It may be that the way you communicate with your husband, or your actions, are interpreted differently by him than you think. Not saying women cause men to cheat, but both sides harm the relationship enough that one tries to justify drifting. If someone isn't getting love and affection at home, they will find SOME way to get it.

That's cute how you put the onus on her and blame the victim when hes the one cheating.

In these situations, it's rarely ever the fault of just one person. Unless the guy is a complete scum bag (then it was her fault for not listening to her friends before marrying him), a guy's reasoning is the relationship is failing.

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Re: cheating husband
« Reply #34 on: January 18, 2010, 09:28:05 AM »
THAT is what I was trying to say. Not saying it's her fault for his cheating, but if anyone in a relationship suspects their partner is being unfaithful, it would be helpful to stop for a second and evaluate WHY that person may have drifted. If he isn't cheating, and just being flaky, then examining and trying to solve the root problems can help rebuild the relationship. However, if the root problem is "The person cares more about a hot ass than a lasting relationship", there's nothing to fix; the relationship shouldn't have happened, and both need to evaluate what the point is.

However, if he is being unfaithful and she's devoted to repairing the relationship, then it will take work on both parts. I'm not saying she should. I'm just saying that, since she never mentioned leaving him and may be devoted to the relationship, something's gotta give.

Also, since most wealthy Jews supported polygamy for a long time, it's pretty much senseless to pull quotes from the Old Testament about marriage in the sense of infidelity.

1. Guy sleeps with a woman not his wife.
2. Wife gets pissed.
3. Guy marries another woman and adds her to the harem.
4. Problem solved.

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Re: cheating husband
« Reply #35 on: January 18, 2010, 09:46:55 AM »
I tried to read The Fountainhead, Atlas Shrugged, Anthem, et cetera. They don't have enough sex in them. I don't like them. I only like sex and perverted stuff and hate women 'cause they think I'm ugly and so I went down town and got me a gun.

I haven't read Fountainhead but I'm pretty sure there's a rape sequence in there.

One of the many strange things about Ayn Rand, when it came to gender roles in relationships she was traditional but to the extreme in true Ayn Rand fashion. It's fascinating in a disturbing way.

Another idiosyncrasy which is very evident in the film adaptation of the Fountainhead (The most unintentionally funny movie of all time. Though the fault may be in part because of the stylization of films in that era.) is how romantic the rational stories are.

Anthem is available online from archive.org here

I started We the Living but moved while in the process of reading it and never picked it up again. I need to fix that. I enjoyed it very much.

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Re: cheating husband
« Reply #36 on: January 18, 2010, 10:09:36 AM »
In these situations, it's rarely ever the fault of just one person. Unless the guy is a complete scum bag (then it was her fault for not listening to her friends before marrying him), a guy's reasoning is the relationship is failing.

...or not reading his message board posts.

This is akin to a child stealing candy because the mom wouldn't buy it for him and blaming the mom for not buying it when he is caught.

How others behave is their karma. How you react to how others behave is your karma and yours alone.

THAT is what I was trying to say. Not saying it's her fault for his cheating, but if anyone in a relationship suspects their partner is being unfaithful, it would be helpful to stop for a second and evaluate WHY that person may have drifted. If he isn't cheating, and just being flaky, then examining and trying to solve the root problems can help rebuild the relationship. However, if the root problem is "The person cares more about a hot ass than a lasting relationship", there's nothing to fix; the relationship shouldn't have happened, and both need to evaluate what the point is.

However, if he is being unfaithful and she's devoted to repairing the relationship, then it will take work on both parts. I'm not saying she should. I'm just saying that, since she never mentioned leaving him and may be devoted to the relationship, something's gotta give.

But he isn't held to the same requirements and standards /before/ he cheated. And he cheated. Funny, that.

Also, it is interesting how you've brought up saving the relationship a few times. What are you, Catholic?
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Re: cheating husband
« Reply #37 on: January 18, 2010, 12:27:27 PM »
No, I'm not Catholic.

Plus, we don't know that he cheated. yeah, he probably is, but we don't know that. Why is this important? I say in the last 2 paragraphs of this small novel.

Both people in a relationship are expected to be faithful, loving, and supportive. IT IS NOT HER FAULT that he isn't upholding his end. I don't think it is at all. If someone is getting abused, cheated on, lied to, etc, etc, then the fault for the damage it causes is ABSOLUTELY on the person who does it. No question. All I have been trying to say, is that before/while heaping on that fault, she should examine their relationship for anything other than signs he exhibits that may indicate why he could be cheating. If she can't find a reason or problem in the relationship other than his outward actions, then either a: He's cheating for the sole reason that he's a scumbag, b: She has no ability for introspection and can't see the other obvious signs, or c: He isn't cheating and she's misinterpreting signals.

If someone is cheating on their spouse, there have probably been problems before that. Does anyone disagree?. If you can't see the problems before (when using hindsight, at least), then you're a fucking idiot. Have you been constantly fighting? Has one been saying they feel unloved, unrespected, belittled, etc? Do you show that you value their opinion? Do you notice or acknowledge when they do little things for you? Does he touch you, show you physical affection in a loving way without it being for sex? Does he tell you he loves you? Do you do the same? Has he hit you? Have you hit him? If I was in a relationship where I was constantly nagged, treated disrespectfully, etc, etc, I'd probably start justifying in my mind going elsewhere for love and affection, especially if I feel I'm not getting it at home. It's not right, but that's just how it is.

I talk about "saving the relationship" because there is obviously a reason they got married in the first place. I know I didn't just get married because I was bored and wanted better financial aid for school. And I feel that, if my wife hurt me or betrayed my trust, I'd rather take the hard task of trying to repair things than just walk away from everything. Why? I took an oath. Does that mean it will work? No. Does that mean I should just trust her implicitly after this? No. But IF I still wanted her around because I love her, then it would be very hard work for both of us to move forward and make changes. It would hurt, but so does any marriage, or anything else in life. Everyone expecting a happy marriage without hard work, sacrifice, and some amount of hurt is full of shit. It's not just some Christian mumbo-jumbo, this is very basic psychology. Most people think and act through reaction, as detailed by behaviorist theories. WHY would this be any different in a marriage, or why would the rules that apply everywhere apply differently here? All actions cause a reaction, and if you want to stop the reaction, the action must be stopped. Even if two people are perfectly compatible when they meet, Erickson's theories state that we are in a constant state of personality development. Who says that I'm going to exhibit all of the same personality traits 5-20 years from now that my wife fell in love with? Neither of us are going to be the same people we married, but that's the point of marriage. To grow together, to change together. If we work at it, then the results will usually be better than if we don't.

Or, as you say, she can get out of the relationship. Not saying she shouldn't. I don't hold other people to my standards if they don't share my beliefs. If she thinks he's cheating and leaves the relationship, then fine. Empower yourself and make a clean break. But, if he wasn't cheating and she tries using her unconfirmed suspicions of adultery as the basis of her divorce, then things are going to get very ugly in court, especially if he willingly turns over his phone records and the exonerate him.

Now, and we haven't even talked about this. What if she gets his phone records, etc, etc and he isn't cheating on her (not likely, but still)? You think she's going to think "Oh, so he must be faithful"? Hell no. I've suspected a girlfriend of cheating, and no amount of evidence to the contrary ever dispelled my suspicions. For me, the suspicion grew and crept into the relationship, and she broke up with me because I turned into a douchebag. Granted, I was 15-17 at the time, but still. How is this going to be any different?

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Re: cheating husband
« Reply #38 on: January 18, 2010, 01:10:25 PM »
I'VE BECOME SO AGGRAVATED BY THIS EXCHANGE THAT I'M GONNA DROP YOUR DOCS, KILL YOUR DOG, BLOW UP YOUR MAILBOX. Sure, part of the responsibility is mine but also some is yours for pissing me off. You should have seen it coming since you know I have a temper.
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Re: cheating husband
« Reply #39 on: January 18, 2010, 02:24:04 PM »
1. If I decide down the line to further pursue our friendship or to make amends, I'll go ahead an accept responsibility for it. But for right now, I'm going to empower myself and make a clean break.
 
2. My d0cz are light, so if you drop them, they won't make that satisfying thud you're looking for. Try dropping my dog with the d0cz.

3. I don't have a dog. If I did, it would hurt me more if you blew him up and dropped my mailbox.

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Re: cheating husband
« Reply #40 on: January 18, 2010, 04:31:41 PM »
I tried to read The Fountainhead, Atlas Shrugged, Anthem, et cetera. They don't have enough sex in them. I don't like them. I only like sex and perverted stuff and hate women 'cause they think I'm ugly and so I went down town and got me a gun.
I haven't read Fountainhead but I'm pretty sure there's a rape sequence in there.
Although this doesn't surprise me, it does tell me which book I am to read first.
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How the hell do you know this is the only one (of the three I mentioned) that I don't have?
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Re: cheating husband
« Reply #41 on: January 18, 2010, 08:13:48 PM »
Five and a half years into their marriage, Stacy and Chris, a Dr. Phil Family, ask for help rebuilding their union. Dr. Phil offers this advice.

Have a solid friendship.
"Ask yourself what kind of friend you are being to your mate," Dr. Phil says. He asks Chris and Stacy what they enjoy doing with their friends, whether it be talking about silly things or sharing a good joke together. He then advises them to apply that same openness to their own relationship. "If you want a good friend, be a good friend," he suggests.

Meet each others' needs.
"The success of a relationship is a function of the extent to which it meets the needs of two people," Dr. Phil explains. He tells Chris that he needs to discover what Stacy's needs are. "Maybe she needs a soft place to fall that day or she needs a shoulder to cry on," he says. He tells Stacy that she doesn't always need to agree with her husband, but she should figure out his needs, whether it's saying that she's proud of him, or that he looks nice that day.
 
Set specific goals.
"Wake up each morning and say, 'What can I do today to advance the ball?'" Dr. Phil advises. Even small things will accumulate over time and make a difference. Find a quiet moment each day and come up with a specific goal to improve your relationship, whether it's calling your spouse during the day just to say hi, or telling your mate that you love him or her more often. Make a conscious effort.

Get back to basics.
"The idea is to have some concept of what a marriage and a partnership is supposed to be and start doing those things," Dr. Phil urges. Write down your definitions of a successful relationship and live up to those definitions. Focus on the fundamental things that are going to make a difference in the long run.

Take responsibility.
You can't control the way your spouse acts in your relationship, but you can control how you react in negative situations. "You have to take 100 percent responsibility for what you're doing in a relationship," Dr. Phil says. "Decide what you believe and hold to be true, and conduct yourself 100 percent consistent with that."

Turn the negatives into a to-do list.
After getting failing grades on Dr. Phil's Relationship Health Profile Test, Stacy and Chris are instructed to turn their negative answers into positive actions. For example, if you don't have fun with your partner, you need to make a list of enjoyable activities you can do together. Ask yourself, what would make your answer on the quiz change?

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Re: cheating husband
« Reply #42 on: January 20, 2010, 10:38:37 AM »
So apparently Matt GSX = Dr. Phil

That sucks for Dr. Phil.

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Re: cheating husband
« Reply #43 on: January 20, 2010, 12:35:52 PM »
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