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Offline Alpha Omicron

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Assaulting Payfones
« on: October 10, 2006, 10:50:41 AM »
Okay, I, like Generic_Phreak, am planning to break the mute function of a Millenium payfone. And I need some advice. The text files at hackcanada and elsewhere describe the mute wire as "plain copper in clear insulation". The contents of the armoured cable of my payfine are these:
One thick silver wire, threaded like rope, inside clear blue insulation.
One thick black cord, inside which is four wires: redish, green, yellowish, and copper inside blackish clear insulation.

Soooo. Where's the mute wire? We can rule out the red and green wires, obviously. But are the yellow and black wires analogous to the ones in an RJ11 jack, or not? And what is the huge silver/blue one for?

Any thoughts are appreciated.
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Re: Assaulting Payfones
« Reply #1 on: October 10, 2006, 04:12:02 PM »
Quote from: Alpha Omicron on October 10, 2006, 10:50:41 AM
Okay, I, like Generic_Phreak, am planning to break the mute function of a Millenium payfone. And I need some advice. The text files at hackcanada and elsewhere describe the mute wire as "plain copper in clear insulation". The contents of the armoured cable of my payfine are these:
One thick silver wire, threaded like rope, inside clear blue insulation.
One thick black cord, inside which is four wires: redish, green, yellowish, and copper inside blackish clear insulation.

Soooo. Where's the mute wire? We can rule out the red and green wires, obviously. But are the yellow and black wires analogous to the ones in an RJ11 jack, or not? And what is the huge silver/blue one for?

Any thoughts are appreciated.

Pix plox.
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Re: Assaulting Payfones
« Reply #2 on: October 10, 2006, 05:22:56 PM »
What the hell is pix plox?
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Re: Assaulting Payfones
« Reply #3 on: October 10, 2006, 05:41:28 PM »
Quote from: Alpha Omicron on October 10, 2006, 05:22:56 PM
What the hell is pix plox?

It means, take a picture of the guts of the phone and post them, please.
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Re: Assaulting Payfones
« Reply #4 on: October 11, 2006, 08:12:31 AM »
On those hybrids what happens when you call a number that hangs up on you? Do you get a dialtone again? If so then is the handset's mic muted then?
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Re: Assaulting Payfones
« Reply #5 on: October 11, 2006, 10:51:04 AM »
I don't think you get a new dial tone, and if you do, it's probably fake.

Turns out that the "reddish" wire is actually plain copper in clear insulation, which matches the description of the mute wire. But then what is the green one for...

Also, i do not own any image capturing apparati, so i can get you a photo. I'll try some ASCII:

|______|                     1: a black cable containing 4 wires: black, green, yellow and clear
|      |    |                    2: a clear blue cable containing a heavy duty silver cord.
|      |    |
|  1  |  2 |
|      |    |
|___|_ _|
|           |
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Re: Assaulting Payfones
« Reply #6 on: October 11, 2006, 10:24:31 PM »
It's probably not the best idea, but... good luck, I guess.

Don't get arrested/killed. And if you do get arrested, make sure you're not doing something stupid like punching the cops with your new PLA brass knuckles.


Actually, do this, but only if you have a friend with a digital cam with you. Something about a guy punching a cop with brass knuckles that say PLA or something on them rocks.
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Re: Assaulting Payfones
« Reply #7 on: October 12, 2006, 07:32:00 AM »
Quote from: mattgsx on October 11, 2006, 10:24:31 PM
It's probably not the best idea, but... good luck, I guess.

Don't get arrested/killed. And if you do get arrested, make sure you're not doing something stupid like punching the cops with your new PLA brass knuckles.


Actually, do this, but only if you have a friend with a digital cam with you. Something about a guy punching a cop with brass knuckles that say PLA or something on them rocks.

My own mediocre attempt at humor has been highly amusing to myself.. Agreed! Alpha, remember that Milleniums are geared all to fuck with their security systems that make everyone buy them. Be extra careful if you do it, dig? We don't need any Robert Paulsons on the PLA.
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Re: Assaulting Payfones
« Reply #8 on: October 12, 2006, 07:40:58 AM »
Quote from: frog on October 12, 2006, 07:32:00 AM
Quote from: mattgsx on October 11, 2006, 10:24:31 PM
It's probably not the best idea, but... good luck, I guess.

Don't get arrested/killed. And if you do get arrested, make sure you're not doing something stupid like punching the cops with your new PLA brass knuckles.


Actually, do this, but only if you have a friend with a digital cam with you. Something about a guy punching a cop with brass knuckles that say PLA or something on them rocks.

My own mediocre attempt at humor has been highly amusing to myself.. Agreed! Alpha, remember that Milleniums are geared all to fuck with their security systems that make everyone buy them. Be extra careful if you do it, dig? We don't need any Robert Paulsons on the PLA.

Bitch Tits Bob was just a butter-face.
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Re: Assaulting Payfones
« Reply #9 on: October 12, 2006, 07:43:24 AM »
Quote from: Alpha Omicron on October 11, 2006, 10:51:04 AM
I don't think you get a new dial tone, and if you do, it's probably fake.

Turns out that the "reddish" wire is actually plain copper in clear insulation, which matches the description of the mute wire. But then what is the green one for...

Also, i do not own any image capturing apparati, so i can get you a photo. I'll try some ASCII:

|______|                     1: a black cable containing 4 wires: black, green, yellow and clear
|      |    |                    2: a clear blue cable containing a heavy duty silver cord.
|      |    |
|  1  |  2 |
|      |    |
|___|_ _|
|           |

Have you ever considered the idea that a Millenium mutes the mic by cutting power to it? I mean, I can't figure out how one wire performs the function of muting a mic.
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Re: Assaulting Payfones
« Reply #10 on: October 12, 2006, 08:50:21 AM »
Quote from: I-baLL on October 12, 2006, 07:43:24 AM
I mean, I can't figure out how one wire performs the function of muting a mic.

Just off the top of my head, one wire could bridge the two mic wires together, rendering it useless (effectively muting it).  There would have to be a switch or something in the middle of said wire though, in order to un-"mute" the mic.
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Re: Assaulting Payfones
« Reply #11 on: October 12, 2006, 09:28:31 AM »
Or the payphone could just cut power to the mic from insdie the payphone.
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Re: Assaulting Payfones
« Reply #12 on: October 12, 2006, 10:45:51 AM »
Update #1: Cut the copper wire in clear tubing. Mic no longer functions. Must spend friday's lunch hour fixing. I'll try the black wire next I guess.
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Re: Assaulting Payfones
« Reply #13 on: October 12, 2006, 12:33:29 PM »
Quote from: I-baLL on October 12, 2006, 09:28:31 AM
Or the payphone could just cut power to the mic from insdie the payphone.

Hey, I didn't say it was practical.  Just possible. 
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Re: Assaulting Payfones
« Reply #14 on: October 15, 2006, 04:33:05 AM »
Do any of you have any electronics know how, the phone simply cuts power to it. The heav duty silver cable is probably to stop idiots like you from ripping the receiver off.  As I-baLL said, the phone most likely cuts it completely. There is probably a relay inside the phone and when you lift the receiver it cuts the microphone off completely. Why would the telco just block the microphone inside the receiver. The mic is completely CUT-OFF, you are wasting your time!
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