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Phone phreaking in Die Hard 3
« on: October 31, 2006, 04:46:17 PM »
In Die Hard 3 Jeremy Iron's character, Simon makes a bunch of calls to the NYPD precinct. When they traced the call it's coming from Norway, Mexico, and some other countries.

Is this possible to do? If so how can it be done?

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Re: Phone phreaking in Die Hard 3
« Reply #1 on: October 31, 2006, 07:13:21 PM »
Are you asking if it's possible to trace calls, or place calls from other countries?
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Re: Phone phreaking in Die Hard 3
« Reply #2 on: October 31, 2006, 07:46:54 PM »
I believe he is talking about diverting.  Yes you can do it. 

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Re: Phone phreaking in Die Hard 3
« Reply #3 on: October 31, 2006, 08:36:56 PM »
Didn't the cop say something silly, like "He's scrambling the whole system!"
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Re: Phone phreaking in Die Hard 3
« Reply #4 on: October 31, 2006, 08:47:40 PM »
It depends on what the police used to trace the call.  Caller id can easily be spoofed from a site like spoofcard.com.
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Re: Phone phreaking in Die Hard 3
« Reply #5 on: October 31, 2006, 09:11:39 PM »
You don't trace a call with Caller ID.
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Re: Phone phreaking in Die Hard 3
« Reply #6 on: October 31, 2006, 09:47:01 PM »
Keep in mind, that movie came out in 1994 or 1995.  Caller ID was brand new and only available in certain areas at the time.

My guess is that Simon used a computer hacker to hack into a few dozen of phone companies across the globe.  He instructed his computer hacker to make a number in Sidney divert to a number in Moscow.  Then the number in Moscow divert to Egypt.  And so on.  The entire time the hacker was setting all this up, intense music was playing and he was spouting a lot of humorous catch phrases. 

I'm not sure what kind of system he used to pull all this off, but I'm pretty sure it was very graphical and had various maps of the world with colorful lines pointing to and from all the locations that he was diverting.  As the police initiated the trace, their computers displayed a similar map with the colorful lines slowly zooming around to the various diversion sites.
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Re: Phone phreaking in Die Hard 3
« Reply #7 on: October 31, 2006, 09:50:13 PM »
It was the GIBSON Arbie, it's always the GIBSON, you know that!
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Re: Phone phreaking in Die Hard 3
« Reply #8 on: October 31, 2006, 10:08:46 PM »
Quote from: rbcp on October 31, 2006, 09:47:01 PM
Keep in mind, that movie came out in 1994 or 1995.  Caller ID was brand new and only available in certain areas at the time.

My guess is that Simon used a computer hacker to hack into a few dozen of phone companies across the globe.  He instructed his computer hacker to make a number in Sidney divert to a number in Moscow.  Then the number in Moscow divert to Egypt.  And so on.  The entire time the hacker was setting all this up, intense music was playing and he was spouting a lot of humorous catch phrases. 

I'm not sure what kind of system he used to pull all this off, but I'm pretty sure it was very graphical and had various maps of the world with colorful lines pointing to and from all the locations that he was diverting.  As the police initiated the trace, their computers displayed a similar map with the colorful lines slowly zooming around to the various diversion sites.

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Re: Phone phreaking in Die Hard 3
« Reply #9 on: October 31, 2006, 11:31:29 PM »
Quote from: rbcp on October 31, 2006, 09:47:01 PM
Keep in mind, that movie came out in 1994 or 1995.  Caller ID was brand new and only available in certain areas at the time.

My guess is that Simon used a computer hacker to hack into a few dozen of phone companies across the globe.  He instructed his computer hacker to make a number in Sidney divert to a number in Moscow.  Then the number in Moscow divert to Egypt.  And so on.  The entire time the hacker was setting all this up, intense music was playing and he was spouting a lot of humorous catch phrases. 

I'm not sure what kind of system he used to pull all this off, but I'm pretty sure it was very graphical and had various maps of the world with colorful lines pointing to and from all the locations that he was diverting.  As the police initiated the trace, their computers displayed a similar map with the colorful lines slowly zooming around to the various diversion sites.

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Re: Phone phreaking in Die Hard 3
« Reply #10 on: November 01, 2006, 08:08:29 AM »
you used to be able to spoof your ani just by using "Orange box" methods, i am not sure if they still work, but the tones injected are exactly the tones used to tell your caller ID where Jeremy Irons is calling from.
You had to send them after the first ring for it to work, and you could send it as many times as you'd like after the caller answer, changing what it said on the caller id. But the hacker who breaks into the CO computers with "intense music" would be a great scene for any movie IMHO.
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Re: Phone phreaking in Die Hard 3
« Reply #11 on: November 01, 2006, 11:45:41 AM »
Quote from: trevelyn on November 01, 2006, 08:08:29 AM
you used to be able to spoof your ani just by using "Orange box" methods, i am not sure if they still work, but the tones injected are exactly the tones used to tell your caller ID where Jeremy Irons is calling from.
You had to send them after the first ring for it to work, and you could send it as many times as you'd like after the caller answer, changing what it said on the caller id. But the hacker who breaks into the CO computers with "intense music" would be a great scene for any movie IMHO.

Orange boxing is for CID. CID =/= ANI. Tracing is not done with CID.
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Re: Phone phreaking in Die Hard 3
« Reply #12 on: November 27, 2006, 12:26:43 PM »
I guess op diverting wouldn't have been as cinematic.
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