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Title: 1st post- i think about getting a VX7rs
Post by: scitamenic on June 12, 2006, 04:47:56 PM
hey all this is my first post here. i first saw the site about 1.5 years ago or so and thought it was cool though i never really visited it much. now i think im going to start doing some of this myself (i never even thought about the intercom system until i saw it here).

im thinking about getting the VX7rs - http://www.hamcity.com/Detail.aspx?ID=329 - i heard this is on of the better ones to mod (ive seen tons online too). im not sure exactly but, would this be the right setup to purchase and Hypothetically talk to drive throughs?

i figure this is the best place to ask and get help. thanks.

 
Title: Re: 1st post- i think about getting a VX7rs
Post by: z09 on June 12, 2006, 05:03:02 PM
Looks fine.  I only have a cheap Kenwood.
Title: Re: 1st post- i think about getting a VX7rs
Post by: scitamenic on June 12, 2006, 05:15:43 PM
whats the model of your keenwood? or post a link. can you also provide me with a link on how to mod it so i can talk to drive throughs.

i dont know why but for some reason i just heard the VX7r and the VX5r are really easy to mod and are the 'best'. if i could get away cheeper though i would really like it. im only working part time and going to college, so i try to save most of my money. but if i knew i could get something that works, then i will have no problem spending the money.

thanks for the reply. if i get this to work i plan on recording some of the pranks and phonecalls. i have made some funny calls, but it was just off hte top of my head and this site wants to make me record them.
Title: Re: 1st post- i think about getting a VX7rs
Post by: z09 on June 12, 2006, 07:35:30 PM
whats the model of your keenwood? or post a link. can you also provide me with a link on how to mod it so i can talk to drive throughs.

i dont know why but for some reason i just heard the VX7r and the VX5r are really easy to mod and are the 'best'. if i could get away cheeper though i would really like it. im only working part time and going to college, so i try to save most of my money. but if i knew i could get something that works, then i will have no problem spending the money.

thanks for the reply. if i get this to work i plan on recording some of the pranks and phonecalls. i have made some funny calls, but it was just off hte top of my head and this site wants to make me record them.

I have an older 8 chanel Kenwood.  It sucks.  You don't need to modify it all you need to do is program the frequecy. 

http://www.epinions.com/pr-TK_2200V8P_KENWOOD_PROTALK_8_CHNL_2WATT_2_WAY_RADIO

What do you have? 
Title: Re: 1st post- i think about getting a VX7rs
Post by: scitamenic on June 12, 2006, 10:15:11 PM
right now i dont really have anything but a really old cb (it was my dads form the late 80's or early 90's) and some pos tiny little radios i got when i was like in 7th grade that i dont even know where they are.

ok so im trying to understand this. you are saying if i want to talk to drive throughs, i dont need to open up the ham radio (if thats the right term), and modify it at all? all i need to do is type in the frequenicy? which i could find at say:
http://www.bearcat1.com/fastfood.htm
http://www.monitoringtimes.com/html/EXfastfood.html
or hundreds more.

so essentially, if im getting this right, i would go near a drive through, type in the right frequency, and then start talking to them? no mods needed?

and personially, do you think it would be worth the money to get the VX7? i also plan on talking to other people besides fast food. i think talking to people that work at big hotels, or amusement parks would also be neat. thanks.
Title: Re: 1st post- i think about getting a VX7rs
Post by: Colonel Panic on June 13, 2006, 05:32:09 AM
I have an old Yaesu VX-5 (pretty much the predecessor to the VX-7).

It's a great little radio. In performance, it's pretty good for 2m and 70cm. Although 5W sometimes seems a little bit underpowered when out in the suburbs, here in Chicago there are plenty of workable repeaters so it's really not not a problem. Besides, you can get some decent range with a good antenna. Its 6m performance isn't quite as good in my experience, but is still usable though I very seldom work 6m.

The VX-5 receives a range of commercial broadcast, dedicated industrial and public emergency services bands, including commercial AM/FM, TV audio, airlines, many security walkie-talkie frequencies and police/fire...

If you do get one of these Yaesu radios, do yourself a favor and buy the software package. It makes it so much easier to program frequencies or transfer them from one radio to another when you can use your computer instead of that dinky little keyboard and monochrome LCD display.

In case you're wondering, you can't mod these radios to receive/transmit on cell phone frequencies. Even though the bands for those communications are well within the range of the VX series hardware capabilities, the specific frequencies have been blocked at the microprocessor level, so that modification to those ends is not possible (at least not as far as I'm aware).

I haven't used the VX-7 yet, but I'm really happy with the VX-5 for purposes of monitoring or ham radio yakking, anyways.
Title: Re: 1st post- i think about getting a VX7rs
Post by: z09 on June 13, 2006, 07:08:34 AM
right now i dont really have anything but a really old cb (it was my dads form the late 80's or early 90's) and some pos tiny little radios i got when i was like in 7th grade that i dont even know where they are.

ok so im trying to understand this. you are saying if i want to talk to drive throughs, i dont need to open up the ham radio (if thats the right term), and modify it at all? all i need to do is type in the frequenicy? which i could find at say:
http://www.bearcat1.com/fastfood.htm
http://www.monitoringtimes.com/html/EXfastfood.html
or hundreds more.

so essentially, if im getting this right, i would go near a drive through, type in the right frequency, and then start talking to them? no mods needed?

and personially, do you think it would be worth the money to get the VX7? i also plan on talking to other people besides fast food. i think talking to people that work at big hotels, or amusement parks would also be neat. thanks.

If your radio can go on thoes freqencies then all you need to do is type it in.  If it can't I recomend getting a radio that can.  The vx7 can. 

If the frequncies are pre-programed, like family 2-ways or CB's, you will have to modify it. 
Title: Re: 1st post- i think about getting a VX7rs
Post by: Colonel Panic on June 13, 2006, 11:54:05 AM
BTW my dad used to write for Monitoring Times. It's an interesting publication, sort of a listener's guide for shortwave and amateur radio hobbyists. Back in the late '80s he had a column that dealt with intercepting government radio transmissions, including some of the encoding techniques used by US intelligence acencies.

One weekend he had some DEA agents stop by the house to look at his setup, after he'd written a column on monitoring their activities (which included a list of tactical frequencies). I think they wanted to make sure he wasn't a spy for some drug cartel or something.

He was actually listening in on their radio conversations as they discussed meeting at the parking lot of a local home improvement center before coming to our house. A few minutes later, they dropped by and ended up staying for an hour or so.

Turned out they were also amateur radio hobbyists like my dad, so the 3 of them ended up mostly just chatting shop with my dad about radio stuff. Before they left, they politely asked him to refrain from publishing that kind of information in the future. He agreed.

My dad still does a lot of shortwave listening, though he no longer writes for the MT. I encourage you to check out the website though. They have a lot of interesting stuff on there.
Title: Re: 1st post- i think about getting a VX7rs
Post by: scitamenic on June 13, 2006, 11:58:07 AM
cool thanks for all the replys. my only last question i can think of then is what is the purpose of the mods for this radio? ive seen several places that have instructions, but what exactly does it do then? i personially thought, for some reason, you needed to mod it to talk to drive throughs. also, i found these instructions on the internet:

Yaesu VX-7 R (VX 7 R VX7R) MARS/CAP and FREEBAND MOD

Remove the battery pack.


Remove the sticker/cover seal for the pressure sensing unit (SU-1), in the battery compartment. This is the black strip above cellular warning label and is where the SU-1 option goes.


Locate row of eight jumpers. They are numbered.


For Mars/Cap, remove solder jumper 5.


For Freeband, remove solder jumper 4 and 5.


Reset microprocessor. (Press and hold in the 4, band, and v/m keys while turning the radio on.


ENJOY
TX Frequencies:
Freeband: 40-224.995Mhz and 300-579.995Mhz
Mars/Cap: 50Mhz-54Mhz, 140Mhz-174Mhz, 222Mhz-225Mhz, and 420Mhz-470Mhz.

     ok now all that just gives it more range and stuff to hear?

thanks for all your help. is hamcity.com a trusted site? they look decent to me, but does anyone have a site they like to order from?
Title: Re: 1st post- i think about getting a VX7rs
Post by: immabadspellor on June 13, 2006, 04:10:15 PM
The main differences IMO between the VX5 and the VX7 are that the VX7 is newer, it is submersible and it is made to transmit on the 1.25 meter ham band as well as 6m, 2m and 70cm out of the box. 

Very few ham radios transmit outside of the ham bands without some sort of modification, whether it be holding down 5 buttons at once and turning on the power button, or actually snipping some wires or pulling diodes inside of it, the VX5 and VX7 incliuded.  While these radios will receive out of the ham bands out of the box, they will not transmit outside of them without the modification posted earlier. 

I'd prefer a VX7 over cheaper radios for the fact that it can receive the VHF-low band, where the output of many drive-thru's are.  Many HT's can do 2 meters and 70cm and be modified to go between 138-174 and 400-500 MHz, but not so many can hear between 30-54.  This can be accomplisehd with any old scanner, but if you're looking for an all in one solution, the VX7 is it.  Also, it receives AM broadcast, shortwave, FM broadcast, cordless phones at both 49 (where it will also transmit) and 900MHz, VHF/UHF TV audio and most other services up to 999MHz.  The sensitivity does vary greatly and the antenna that comes with it is only made to work optimally for 6, 2, 1.25 and 70cm. It will transmit just fine on FRS, GMRS, MURS, drive-thru's, wireless mics at Sea World, whatever.  The only thing you could do better would be a W32A or D7 since they can receive and transmit at the same time, but I don't think they have 6m capability, their battery life stinks and they're priced $100 more, although crossband repeating a neighboring McDonalds into a Taco Bell drive through could be interesting. 

The VX7 can also scan for PL tones being used and DCS although I've never heard of a drive through using DCS.  I've heard a McDonalds one using a rapid touch tone at the beginning of their transmission, 0 for speaker and # for headset to headset, combined with a PL tone.  A lot of drive thru's are now going to 900MHz ISM band, which are unlicensed, or licensed in blocks but either way they don't appear in the FCC database.  These are wideband FM which can be received by the VX7 but it cannot transmit there, not that the VX7 can transmit a wideband FM signal anyways.  If you were close enough and had enough power, you could transmit at half the input frequency thus creating a harmonic at the input frequency, but it still would be narrowband and the voice would sound very quiet.  You could probably modify a Motorola Maxtrac or similar to operate at that frequency and bandwidth.  Drive-thru's using this system can be identified by the headsets without a belt pack and have buttons on the side of the headphones.  3M makes them, HME may now as well.  You can pull up the detailed specs on their website for any of their headsets or any of their things including their Opticom traffic light changer for emergency vehicles, thanks 3M! 
Title: Re: 1st post- i think about getting a VX7rs
Post by: Colonel Panic on June 14, 2006, 07:03:08 AM
Oh wow. I didn't know the VX7 was a quad-band.

And that's very awesomel. I didn't know that there was a simple mod that allowed those radios to transmit on the industrial frequencies as well. Cool!

I wonder if you could transmit on the airlines frequencies as well... Could be good for a few laughs!
Title: Re: 1st post- i think about getting a VX7rs
Post by: kcochran on June 14, 2006, 12:36:29 PM
I'm getting a VX-7R myself, both for legitimate Ham use, but also for the mod'd capabilities.

Keep in mind, while you're probably not going to raise a ruckus screwing with restaurants every now and then, if you start screwing with police/fire/emergency or airport stuff, you're going to bring a LOT of attention to the matter.

Not saying that they'll be able to instantly catch you or anything, simply saying that there's a lot of other things to screw with that aren't going to entail charges of terrorism, were you to get caught.

Now, I need to find myself a radio (even mobile) that's capable of trunking stuff in the 460mhz range - the local Target Distribution Center where some people I know work just changed from simplex to a trunked solution.
Title: Re: 1st post- i think about getting a VX7rs
Post by: Colonel Panic on June 14, 2006, 12:51:30 PM
I think 460 MHz falls just above the 70cm ham band (http://www.w0mnx.com/vhfuhf.htm). A Yaesu VX-7 modded according to the "MARS/CAP and FREEBAND MOD" instructions (posted by scitamenic above) should work.

Yaesu VX-7 R (VX 7 R VX7R) MARS/CAP and FREEBAND MOD

   1. Remove the battery pack.

   2. Remove the sticker/cover seal for the pressure sensing unit (SU-1), in the battery compartment. This is the black strip above cellular warning label and is where the SU-1 option goes.

   3. Locate row of eight jumpers. They are numbered.

   4. For Mars/Cap, remove solder jumper 5.

   5. For Freeband, remove solder jumper 4 and 5.

   6. Reset microprocessor. (Press and hold in the 4, band, and v/m keys while turning the radio on.

   7. ENJOY

TX Frequencies:
Freeband: 40-224.995Mhz and 300-579.995Mhz
Mars/Cap: 50Mhz-54Mhz, 140Mhz-174Mhz, 222Mhz-225Mhz, and 420Mhz-470Mhz.

In case you want to see the webpage they came from, it's here (http://www.ham.dmz.ro/yaesu/vx-7r-mars-cap-and-freeband-mod.php).

So there ya go.
Title: Re: 1st post- i think about getting a VX7rs
Post by: immabadspellor on June 14, 2006, 04:21:26 PM
The VX7 does key up in the aviation band, however I'm not sure how much power it outputs there nor if it does so in AM.  The further you get from the ham bands the less efficiently the radio operates and the less power it will put out, especially with the factory rubber duck antenna.  Another thing which sets the VX7 apart from other tri/quad band HT's is that it will transmit in AM on 6 meters, so it's possible that it does so on the aviation band as well.  As a private pilot, I've been in a situation before where I've lost all electrical power in the plane due to a failed alternator and having this HT at the time would have been great to call out on the unicom frequency of the airport.  Landing at a controlled field would have been next to impossible without a radio, and if you did land you'd have been interrogated upon landing as well.  These radios are not type approved for use on anything but the ham bands, but if I was ever in a life threatening emergency I would feel that much more comfortable knowing that I have a much better chance of getting a hold of someone with my HT opened up and I would not hesitate to use 121.5, police frequencies or whatever if it was a true emergency. 

Messing with aviation frequencies is bad.  Don't do it.  You can put many others lives in jeopardy and you have a good chance of getting caught.  There are low earth orbiting satellites whose sole purpose in life is to monitor the aircraft band, specifically the emergency and ELT frequencies.  If you go messing with it, they will hunt you down and show no mercy.  Not that messing with drive thru's is legal, but this is very illegal and can be life threatening. 

You could actually get licensed by the FCC to the same frequencies as what drive thrus are on and then just happen to use the same PL tones.  Drive thru's don't have exclusive use to their frequencies and are not protected so this is a possibility.  A fun, legal thing to do would be to post a sign on the drive thru speaker saying "Sing happy birthday to the drive thru person and get a free frosty" and listen to the fun afterwards.  Be creative.  You can put all sorts of signs out there and they'd never know what the heck was going on.  I know you'll find telling fatso in the McD's drive thru how her diet coke isn't going to help her much after her supersized double big mac meal much more entertaining but the former is an option for those with just scanners and no transmit capabilities too. 

Do the freeband mod.  It's just removing one more jumper with your snot sucker, or iron and braid.    Also, I think you'll find that the TX drop off is around 555 MHz rather than 580.  The protection circuitry inside the radio cuts it off much above this point.  The circuits are just not tuned to work at those frequencies on transmit.  I don't think that will be a big deal breaker for anyone as there's not much up there but TV and some wireless mics may go that high.

The VX7 also has a "channel counter" which is sort of a frequency counter, but slower and you have to have at least some sort of idea of what frequency they're on.  You can punch in 460 MHz and have it do a 10 MHz +/- sweep which takes about 5 seconds and if someone nearby is transmitting for that 5 seconds somewhere between 450 and 470 MHz you will lock onto their frequency.  Not as easy nor fast as an Optoelectronics Xplorer, but it is also about $500 cheaper and can transmit, too.  It also has a 16,581,375 color LED which is so 31337!
Title: Re: 1st post- i think about getting a VX7rs
Post by: kcochran on June 14, 2006, 07:33:27 PM
You know, the great thing about the FCC and radio is that it's all public record.

For example, the Taco Bell in Albany, OR by K-Mart has their frequencies listed here:

http://wireless2.fcc.gov/UlsApp/UlsSearch/licenseFreqSum.jsp?licKey=1736895 (http://wireless2.fcc.gov/UlsApp/UlsSearch/licenseFreqSum.jsp?licKey=1736895)
The other Taco Bell in Albany has their frequencies here:

http://wireless2.fcc.gov/UlsApp/UlsSearch/licenseFreqSum.jsp?licKey=1727587 (http://wireless2.fcc.gov/UlsApp/UlsSearch/licenseFreqSum.jsp?licKey=1727587)

The ULS is pretty damned cool.

 ;D

Other things are a wee bit harder to find, but not impossible.

For example, as I mentioned, the Target Distribution Center in Albany recently bought all new radio equipment, and changed from simplex to a trunked system.

Their old frequencies were registered in Albany, their new ones are registered to their corporate offices in Minnesota.  You just need to know the "store number" of the DC.
Title: Re: 1st post- i think about getting a VX7rs
Post by: z09 on June 15, 2006, 03:41:33 PM

Keep in mind, while you're probably not going to raise a ruckus screwing with restaurants every now and then, if you start screwing with police/fire/emergency or airport stuff, you're going to bring a LOT of attention to the matter.


When I first got my kenwood, back when I was in 6th grade, I got on CHP (California Highway Patrol's) car to car frequency.  My friend and I messed with them for hours.  We didn't do anything big.  We just keyed the radio blowing into it hard.  Someone would come on going 10-8 (thier old code for repeat).  Someone told us that the radio wasn't working and to bring it in.  Now that I am older I notice that interfering with the police is not funny.  I would never do that again.  It is like prank calling 911, it is not funny when somebody's life is in danger.  Don't mess with the police. 

PMS: I don't feel as bad doing it to the Highway Patrol, because all they do is give out tickets.  I would never do it to the Orange County Sherrif, or the Tustin Police Department.   
Title: Re: 1st post- i think about getting a VX7rs
Post by: Colonel Panic on June 16, 2006, 06:36:12 AM
I'm getting a VX-7R myself, both for legitimate Ham use, but also for the mod'd capabilities.

Kcochran, what class license do you have?


The VX7 does key up in the aviation band, however I'm not sure how much power it outputs there nor if it does so in AM.  The further you get from the ham bands the less efficiently the radio operates and the less power it will put out, especially with the factory rubber duck antenna.

Actually the power it puts out is the same, it's just that the antenna is less efficient. However, you can easily make a new antenna for whatever band you plan on working. A simple quarter-, half-, or full-wave antenna can be made out of a piece of electrical wire (the kind used to wire houses) and a small (4" square) piece of copper sheet for a ground-plane.  ;)


As a private pilot...

Wow. I've always wanted to learn to fly. Do you own a plane?


Messing with aviation frequencies is bad.  Don't do it.  You can put many others lives in jeopardy and you have a good chance of getting caught.  There are low earth orbiting satellites whose sole purpose in life is to monitor the aircraft band, specifically the emergency and ELT frequencies.  If you go messing with it, they will hunt you down and show no mercy.

True. I guess I should really watch what kinds of things  I say around here, lest I come off as advocating the wrong activities.
Title: Re: 1st post- i think about getting a VX7rs
Post by: rbcp on June 16, 2006, 07:56:38 AM
Anyone remember several years ago when the police were trying to talk down a suicide jumper from a bridge, and some prankster started playing Jump by Van Halen over the police band?  Messing with police frequencies is bad, but you gotta admit that was pretty classy.
Title: Re: 1st post- i think about getting a VX7rs
Post by: z09 on June 16, 2006, 02:20:21 PM
Anyone remember several years ago when the police were trying to talk down a suicide jumper from a bridge, and some prankster started playing Jump by Van Halen over the police band?  Messing with police frequencies is bad, but you gotta admit that was pretty classy.

Yeah, that was funny but it was still evil.  Evil and VERY illegal.  By doing that you are just asking for a few years in prision.  If somebody gets hurt or dies because of it you asking for a life sentence.
Title: Re: 1st post- i think about getting a VX7rs
Post by: rbcp on June 16, 2006, 03:17:13 PM
Yeah, that was funny but it was still evil.  Evil and VERY illegal.  By doing that you are just asking for a few years in prision.  If somebody gets hurt or dies because of it you asking for a life sentence.

Yeah, thanks for the lecture BUT I DIDN'T DO IT.  I'm just telling you about it and being all like haha.
Title: Re: 1st post- i think about getting a VX7rs
Post by: z09 on June 16, 2006, 04:55:22 PM
Sorry I Worded that wrong.
Title: Re: 1st post- i think about getting a VX7rs
Post by: immabadspellor on June 16, 2006, 06:17:47 PM

The VX7 does key up in the aviation band, however I'm not sure how much power it outputs there nor if it does so in AM.  The further you get from the ham bands the less efficiently the radio operates and the less power it will put out, especially with the factory rubber duck antenna.

Actually the power it puts out is the same, it's just that the antenna is less efficient. However, you can easily make a new antenna for whatever band you plan on working. A simple quarter-, half-, or full-wave antenna can be made out of a piece of electrical wire (the kind used to wire houses) and a small (4" square) piece of copper sheet for a ground-plane.  ;)

I do not disagree that ham antennas perform poorly outside of the amateur bands, but the radio itself is a factor as well.  If someone has access to this radio, a Bird wattmeter and a dummy load and can prove that this radio can transmit a full 5 watts from 40-225 and 300-580, I'd be very amazed.  I know that the PLL starts to become unlocked at around 550 so I can say with some certainty that a full 5 watts is not being output there, even into a dummy load, or a telescoping antenna adjusted to a quarter wavelength although I wouldn't do anything illegal like that ;)  However, there is hope that this radio does in fact put out a meaningful amount of power on the aviation band, as it is quite close to 2m and even closer to the bottom end of the CAP band.  Also, Yaesu a.k.a. Vertex Standard makes a radio which looks identical to the VX-7 for the aviation band, and it's a dual band aviation and 2m radio in one which is quite unique for a radio commercially sold and type approved for VHF aviation.  The model is the VXA-710 (even similar in nomenclature) if anyone cares to look it up.  It is more expensive than the VX-7R and lacks many of the features which the 7R posesses. however one must wonder with its nearly identical looks how different the guts of it really is.  Is there just different software burnt into it?  Who knows.  It is this striking similarity which leads me to believe that the VX-7 could function well enough to be useful on the aviation band if an occaision arose where I had to use it there. 

As a private pilot...

Wow. I've always wanted to learn to fly. Do you own a plane?

No, I rent Cessna 182's fixed gear.  Those little planes, most a few decades old, are more expensive than people think.  $100k or better unless it's 50 years old and a fixer upper.  A new one will run you about $300k.  Renting isn't exactly cheap either but if you only fly once in a while and you're not independently wealthy, it's the way to go.  Our club's rental fees just charge by engine running time and includes the price of gas (100 octane low lead) provided you get it at the club's airport.  If you fill up elsewhere, they'll reimburse you the price at the club's airfield and any difference in price you'd have to cover yourself.  Having it go by engine run time is nice so you can take a vacation somewhere and park it for a week without worrying about being charged for the time it's just sitting there, besides the parking fees at whatever field you land at of course.  On the other hand, if you want to take a trip during a popular vacation time of the year, you have to reserve the plane pretty far in advance before someone else takes it for at least one of the days you had planned on having it for.


True. I guess I should really watch what kinds of things  I say around here, lest I come off as advocating the wrong activities.

It's mostly a CYA thing, but I draw the line at putting human lives into jeopardy.  I just think that a lot of these people who screw with ATC frequencies don't realize what could happen not just to them legally but to those in the air who rely on these frequencies to arrive safely to their destination.  Everything isn't automated yet.  There's still a lot of human involvement, especially if conditions are IFR.  When you're up there in IMC and you can't see a damned thing, that radio and the ATC controller on the other end of it is your lifeline to make sure you're not going to crash into anyone else in that cloud.  Those little radios on the ground might only go a couple of miles without a different antenna higher up, but for someone in the air it is not uncommon to pick up signals hundreds of miles away.  The potential is there to interfere with one heck of a lot of air traffic.  Let me also take this opportunity to let people know that transmitters can be found quite easily by direction finding or DF for short.  Hams do it often with transmitter, or "fox" hunts and you can bet the FCC and others have some pretty sophisticated gear to accomplish this.  Doppler DF systems can gain an azimuthal lock on transmissions of less than one second, and this can be done with equipment any ham could build in his basement for less than $100. 

So, in closing, have fun, but think first, don't do anything that could potentially cause another human being to be harmed and/or killed, and don't ever believe it's impossible to get caught.   
Title: Re: 1st post- i think about getting a VX7rs
Post by: kcochran on June 16, 2006, 06:57:45 PM
I'm getting a VX-7R myself, both for legitimate Ham use, but also for the mod'd capabilities.

Kcochran, what class license do you have?

NO CAPITAL K!   ;D

Currently, I've just got the Technician Class license, which I got a little less than a month ago.

I'm going to get at least my General Class, and will probably snag my Amateur Extra as soon as I decide that it's time to learn Morse Code.  The requirement has been leveled to just 5wpm for both classes, only have to test once, which is easy, I suppose, but stuff like Morse has always been a pain to me.
Title: Re: 1st post- i think about getting a VX7rs
Post by: kcochran on June 16, 2006, 06:59:46 PM
Anyone remember several years ago when the police were trying to talk down a suicide jumper from a bridge, and some prankster started playing Jump by Van Halen over the police band?  Messing with police frequencies is bad, but you gotta admit that was pretty classy.

Yeah, that was funny but it was still evil.  Evil and VERY illegal.  By doing that you are just asking for a few years in prision.  If somebody gets hurt or dies because of it you asking for a life sentence.

EVIL?!

Bah, it's a public service.

People like suicide jumpers that draw a big public crowd are doing it for attention, and don't really want to jump.  Police departments should hire a pusher, and get things over with quickly.
Title: Re: 1st post- i think about getting a VX7rs
Post by: silentneep on June 17, 2006, 02:27:28 AM
Police departments should hire a pusher, and get things over with quickly.

To sell the suicidal people drugs?  Awesome idea!
Title: Re: 1st post- i think about getting a VX7rs
Post by: Colonel Panic on June 17, 2006, 06:26:09 PM
I've had my Technician license for a few years now. My dad (an avid ham) bugged my brother and me to get ham licenses ever since I was about 12.  I've been thinking about getting my General, but I really don't have much need for it.

I rarely even use my radios now. Lately, I've mostly used the license to operate homing beacons for high-powered rockets (in case the rockets get lost), so yeah I know about RF direction finding. I have a loop antenna and an attentuator that I keep for the purpose of locating lost rockets. Thankfully, I haven't yet lost a rocket, but I did once use the rig in a local ham club's fox hunt.
Title: Re: 1st post- i think about getting a VX7rs
Post by: Cire_h on June 08, 2008, 02:19:42 AM
hey all this is my first post here. i first saw the site about 1.5 years ago or so and thought it was cool though i never really visited it much. now i think im going to start doing some of this myself (i never even thought about the intercom system until i saw it here).

im thinking about getting the VX7rs - http://www.hamcity.com/Detail.aspx?ID=329 - i heard this is on of the better ones to mod (ive seen tons online too). im not sure exactly but, would this be the right setup to purchase and Hypothetically talk to drive throughs?

i figure this is the best place to ask and get help. thanks.

 

The VX-7r Is a great radio. It would do everything you want it to, and plenty of other stuff as well. It would be a great handheld rig to grow with. One of the great unique things about the 7r, is that it can be modified to operate out of the amateur bands using free software (available at http://www.kc8unj.com/) You could get away with a cheaper radio if all you want to do is talk to drive throughs, but if you're looking to get into ham radio as well, it's a great choice.
Title: Re: 1st post- i think about getting a VX7rs
Post by: Lestan Gregor on June 08, 2008, 07:34:38 AM
hey all this is my first post here. i first saw the site about 1.5 years ago or so and thought it was cool though i never really visited it much. now i think im going to start doing some of this myself (i never even thought about the intercom system until i saw it here).

im thinking about getting the VX7rs - http://www.hamcity.com/Detail.aspx?ID=329 - i heard this is on of the better ones to mod (ive seen tons online too). im not sure exactly but, would this be the right setup to purchase and Hypothetically talk to drive throughs?

i figure this is the best place to ask and get help. thanks.

 

The VX-7r Is a great radio. It would do everything you want it to, and plenty of other stuff as well. It would be a great handheld rig to grow with. One of the great unique things about the 7r, is that it can be modified to operate out of the amateur bands using free software (available at http://www.kc8unj.com/) You could get away with a cheaper radio if all you want to do is talk to drive throughs, but if you're looking to get into ham radio as well, it's a great choice.

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Title: Re: 1st post- i think about getting a VX7rs
Post by: immabadspellor_ on June 25, 2008, 07:46:02 PM
VX-7R is slated to take a price cut at your local candy store as the VX-8R is coming out in a couple weeks.  I played with one last month and it's VERY cool.  Improvements include:

- internal ferrite rod antenna for AM/SW rx
- more power on 1.25m (1.5w)
- smaller, lighter weight (plastic instead of magnesium case)
- bluetooth (included although headset is optional, no word if it works with cell headsets)
- Built in TNC for APRS, plus option for speaker mic with integral GPS

It'll be interesting to see how easy this radio can be modded and what it's exact rx/tx coverage will be after mods.  Hopefully now that analog cellular is shut off in almost all areas of the states radio manufacturers won't be required to block cell frequencies (primary and image). 
Title: Re: 1st post- i think about getting a VX7rs
Post by: Lestan Gregor on June 25, 2008, 08:10:25 PM
BLUETOOTH! FINALLY!

Yeasu seems to be ahead of the rest in providing this...
Title: Re: 1st post- i think about getting a VX7rs
Post by: mistah_blonde on June 25, 2008, 09:17:01 PM
...in response to all that about "don't call the police and mess with them"

I was trawling over the online phone books for numbers listed with a first time... and made the attached prank call.

A few hours later when I really wasn't in my phreaking mood and dealing with the brutal reality of life in the UK Ghetto I got a call back from a Desk Sergeant who was none too happy about my antics. Which just goes to show you... something.
Title: Re: 1st post- i think about getting a VX7rs
Post by: legend813 on June 26, 2008, 08:47:50 AM
They sure do talk funny across that water don't they