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Other Stuff That Has Little To Do With PLA => Techinical Shit => Phreaking, Hacking, Social Engineering, Lock Picking => Topic started by: trevelyn on June 26, 2007, 07:19:22 AM
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hey, i had a an idea i think... wait.. no? YEAH! yeah i did. okay ready?
I am incapable of basic II stamp work, and am an ameteur at teh soldering Iron.
So, If i ever made a blue box (the real way) that would r0x. so, back to reality,
The project MF asterisk mods seem to be pretty sensative, and the timing on the switches that are still blue boxable theres days are all different. So i was thinking a few days ago about a ghetto blue box.
like what if i used an old keypad from a phone, a project box from rat shack, and 13 (0-9 KP ST (mapped to * and #) and 2600 (mapped to an extra button i guess)) recordable gift cards. Rip out the recording shit and throw the cards in the rubbish, record the tones made with soundforge, and "injected" physically into the mic line (rather than putting a speaker up to the mic) and soldering them all parallel to an output headphone jack, after ripping off the the little speakers. ??? close up the box, and yeah well, ghetto..
but I CLEARLY HAVE NO IDEA WHAT I'M TALKING ABOUT, EVER., any better ideas? (besides learning basic stamp II and soldering classes (i have not the time regretably))
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That sounds intensely cool. I'm waiting to have enough money to get the HOPE 6 DVDs about project MF.
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sweet. thats all =]
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i just realised that the money it will take to pay for the cards, would add up to the same amount of money it would take to pay someone to build a real one. 13 (recordable hallmark cards $15 each My own mediocre attempt at humor has been highly amusing to myself.) http://www.gmkmg.com/card_record.htm
man...
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Soldering isn't that hard, I learned when I was ten. I'd feel lame using a bluebox I didn't make myself, it's like a jedi's lightsabre or something.
Wow, that's the nerdiest analogy of all time.
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i can solder most ss components okay, but when it comes down to the pins of an IC, i muck it up. and i dont think you really could put one to good use these days, but i just wanted one. I think they are neat.
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You have tried ProjectMF at 630-485-2995, haven't you? Get a software box and try it ou!
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i can solder most ss components okay, but when it comes down to the pins of an IC, i muck it up. and i dont think you really could put one to good use these days, but i just wanted one. I think they are neat.
Well you can use it with Project MF. As far as IC pins go, I'd advise winding some non-galvanized steel or copper wire around the tip of the iron to basically elongate and greatly reduce the size of the tip.
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You have tried ProjectMF at 630-485-2995, haven't you? Get a software box and try it ou!
df99!! you rock man! :D
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i re-read this and decided that i am very interested in this. and i will help you however you need help. im very good with hardware and building electronics. i have an idea to an attachment for this. if you want help you can email me or PM me. have you completed it?
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i can solder most ss components okay, but when it comes down to the pins of an IC, i muck it up. and i dont think you really could put one to good use these days, but i just wanted one. I think they are neat.
DIL socket. You solder that in and then insert the IC.
Click if you need to see one (http://www.maplin.co.uk/Search.aspx?criteria=BL17T&DOY=28m6)
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Get a breadboard. That way you won't have to solder anything. Why can't you use the Basic Stamp II? It really is quite easy. In fact, I will post schematics and code for Basic Stamp II blue box (and red box, too) if any of you are interested in building one. Alternatively, you could be old fashioned and build a bunch of oscillators and connect them to a keypad. That way is a bit harder, but not too hard.
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I CLEARLY HAVE NO IDEA WHAT I'M TALKING ABOUT, EVER. godot, i never really tried to use one thats all. The kit was only $80 at the time for the basic II beginners set and i didnt have the money i guess. what is it? an IC mounter that is USB for you to put code into PROMs?
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i just realised that the money it will take to pay for the cards, would add up to the same amount of money it would take to pay someone to build a real one. 13 (recordable hallmark cards $15 each My own mediocre attempt at humor has been highly amusing to myself.) http://www.gmkmg.com/card_record.htm
man...
Usually when one takes the "easier" route to accomplishing something it ends up costing alot more than if you were to buy/have someone do it for you and sometimes results in serious injury.... but the experience you gain may or may not be worth it...
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I CLEARLY HAVE NO IDEA WHAT I'M TALKING ABOUT, EVER. godot, i never really tried to use one thats all. The kit was only $80 at the time for the basic II beginners set and i didnt have the money i guess. what is it? an IC mounter that is USB for you to put code into PROMs?
Pretty much. It is a (re)programmable IC with a serial interface to download programs. Most BS2 kits now come with a USB-to-Serial since USB is more common now. It is fairly expensive, as you've seen. The IC itself is $50. It is cheaper than the hallmark cards, though.
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im almost done with mines. i wish. i got my project box today with circuit board. im looking at what chips to buy
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I'm just watching the project MF dvd now and damn this is cool. I suppose if you wanted to be lame, you could record blue box tones to an mp3 player and use that, millenium-era redbox style.
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I'm just watching the project MF dvd now and damn this is cool. I suppose if you wanted to be lame, you could record blue box tones to an mp3 player and use that, millenium-era redbox style.
Won't work. Kinda. You need to be able to control the timing of the tones and that's going to be impossible to easily change on the fly with an mp3/tape/wav/whatever bluebox.
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Maybe a cheap PDA then. You could even synthesize the tones from scratch with one of those, I remember using a stock synth program to teach a friend of mine about redboxing. He later turned out to be a bit of a nazi and moved away.
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whatever dewd, i have done this you just need to set the timing in the software you use to create the tones, I use Sony Soundforge. But you need good foresight before venturing off with your tones. for number dialing and such, record the full phone numbers with the 2600 in front, dont forget KP and ST. the timings are a pain sometimes, but if you set up a project mf box you will know exactly what to set them to. (in ms)
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Why don't you just add all the MF tones to your i pod which are the right length and use the on the go playlist to play them in order.
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I suggested that like a million fucking posts back. It won't work because you'd need to have superpowers to hit them fast enough.
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You didn't even mention that this thread was more than two months old before he raised it from the dead as a flesh eating monster that will kill everyone on this forum.
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Stamp kits are cheaper on ebay, still around the $40-$50 range. Search for Parallax. In high school I was part of a robotics team and we used one of their processors, and it was pretty kick ass. Keep in mind they use "PBASIC", which just has a few different reserved words and functions, but still crazy simple. When I was at it I never thought of attaching a speaker to see what I could do, but I'm sure it's possible.
But! I'm sure it can be done even cheaper, stamp kits are way more expensive compared to just buying a microprocessor and building the pic programmer. Since you're not really good with soldering you might just want to stick with something pre-built, or learn how to solder from NASA videos! http://radiojove.gsfc.nasa.gov/telescope/soldering.htm
Most of the time shitty soldering jobs come from shitty soldering irons. They're super useful, I recently lost mine in a move, but it's worth the $100 when it works for years. Get something with a solder stand, and probably the most important thing is a temperature. Sponges are nice too.
I'm guessing that your trouble comes from too much solder, in which case you can get de-soldering webbing, check radio shack around where you find the solder, there's also a "solder sucker" that looks kind of like a hypodermic needle, but works in reverse. For solder, all I've ever used is rosin core, usually a thin gauge (but not too thin, think of something about 1mm thickish, but it's all personal preference.
Just a thought, since someone else already resurrected the thread.
-wino
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Isn't blue boxing obsolete?
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This thread is resurrected more than Jesus
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