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Other Stuff That Has Little To Do With PLA => General Discussions => Topic started by: rbcp on October 28, 2006, 08:15:43 PM
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I just got an email from the webmaster of this site:
http://www.phonebomb.net/ (http://www.phonebomb.net/)
He wants to link swap with me. I'm not sure if it's an automated link swap request like I get all the time or not. But the site design is awesome. And the service is...interesting. Apparently it lets you submit a number of someone you hate and the service harasses them forever. In the "about" section it says this:
Once a phone number is submitted for bombing, a team consisting of both staff members and users call using computer programs, relentlessly, for as long as they feel like. Simple as that. No questions. No joke.
DO NOT submit your own phone number as a test, as you will be called relentlessly.
And here's the FAQ:
Q: What's the risk?
A: There is none! Just submit the phone number of a person who you hate or want revenge on. Has someone been giving you hell at school? Get fired from your job? Girlfriend break up with you? Fuck them over!
Q: What if I don't know their phone number?
A: If you don't know the persons phone number, you can always crack open your phonebook, or use a website such as Yellowpages.com (U.S.) or Yellowpages.ca (Canada) to find their number.
Q: How do I know if it really works?
A: Submit your own number and see what happens...
Q: Isn't this illegal?
A: You would think, but no - not one bit. Since it does not automatically bomb the number, it is legal. Real people are calling the numbers.
Q: What if my phone number is posted and I want it removed?
A: Too bad, motherfucker. Wait it out, or change your phone number.
I'm not going to test this out tonight. But if anyone else wants to, I'd like to hear the results. Is this really real? Or is it just going to spam the number with phone sex ads? There's a forum on the site, too. I'm just now starting to read the posts. But this one is interesting:
http://www.phonebomb.net/forum/showthread.php?tid=63 (http://www.phonebomb.net/forum/showthread.php?tid=63)
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lets just hope It doesn't go the way of "call the future"
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Looks Awesome. I think i'll try it out.
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I was reading their forums, looks like their site just used skype to do their dirty work, I already put in my submissions hehehe
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can we make an agreement NOT to "bomb" any fellow PLA fourm members?
( Guy 1: ZOMG U R A NEWB!!1 go DIE My own mediocre attempt at humor has been highly amusing to myself.!1
Guy 2: Well I PWN u My own mediocre attempt at humor has been highly amusing to myself. PHONE BOMB AtAck!!!!!!
Guy 1 Recives harrasing calls for the next 2 years)
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Hey rbcp,
That was not an automated email. One of your members joined my forum and posted your link ( see http://phonebomb.net/forum/showthread.php?tid=64&pid=371#pid371 ) So I thought, since the sites obviously have something in common, we might as well link up because that's what all the cool sites are doing these days.
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hey brad... he thought I was trying to hook him up with you... but your waaay too cool to be gay.. and besides, youve got kids, and your too dedicated to phreaking to be gay.. (no sarcasm intended ;D)...seriously
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hey brad... he thought I was trying to hook him up you... but your waaay too cool to be gay..
Thanks for believing in me! If only I could convince the REST of the world that I'm not gay...
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hey brad... he thought I was trying to hook him up you... but your waaay too cool to be gay..
Thanks for believing in me! If only I could convince the REST of the world that I'm not gay...
http://www.phonelosers.org/contests_gay.html
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wow brad... um.. yah.. thats just plain scary
*weird computer voice* sureness that Mr.Brad Carter is not gay, has dropped form %100 to %0.1 in this user *weird computer voice*
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Wow if that is real, that is probably the coolest thing I have seen in a while. You should do a "link swap" with them, I mean why not, it seems like a cool site to me.
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This seems like the most dangerous thing that has ever happened to the internet since shitting dick nipples.
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Well it says it isnt illegal, but I certainly wouldnt want to host all those phone numbers on my website, where the members are encouraged to harrass the owners of said number.
But then again I have no problem phoning thme ;D
P.S.... Frog made me do it... Frog is my new hero and he told me to do it... Direct all angry stuff at frog..
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Wow if that is real, that is probably the coolest thing I have seen in a while. You should do a "link swap" with them, I mean why not, it seems like a cool site to me.
He already did.
I'm kinda supprised this hasn't hit digg(or other such sites) yet, but if it did, the thing would be over.
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Wow if that is real, that is probably the coolest thing I have seen in a while. You should do a "link swap" with them, I mean why not, it seems like a cool site to me.
He already did.
I'm kinda supprised this hasn't hit digg(or other such sites) yet, but if it did, the thing would be over.
I knew that... duhhhh ;)
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I'm kinda supprised this hasn't hit digg(or other such sites) yet, but if it did, the thing would be over.
It already has. Twice.
Here's the one that made the front page for a very brief minute.
http://digg.com/security/Make_someone_s_phone_ring_off_the_hook
Why would it be over? Not everyone that dugg it was evil enough to use it.
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Yay, I'm listed on phonebomb.net in the same section as the pocket pussies. That makes me feel good about myself!
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this has to be the weirdest thread yet... we haev linear accusing you of being gay, and then your happy about being an owner of a few pocket pussies! Welcome back to the straight life brad... BTW you have a little fudge on your chin ;)
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Why would it be over? Not everyone that dugg it was evil enough to use it.
Hmm, I guess most ppl don't have a twisted mind like mine.
Just seems like something that if everyone embraced it that some "higher power" may try to shut you down with legal threats.
Also when I searched digg for "phone bomb" and "phonebomb" for a year back, I didn't pick anything up.
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Why would it be over? Not everyone that dugg it was evil enough to use it.
Hmm, I guess most ppl don't have a twisted mind like mine.
Just seems like something that if everyone embraced it that some "higher power" may try to shut you down with legal threats.
Also when I searched digg for "phone bomb" and "phonebomb" for a year back, I didn't pick anything up.
Did you not see the link I posted? http://digg.com/security/Make_someone_s_phone_ring_off_the_hook
It doesn't have phone bomb in the title anywhere.
Brad: If I didn't have a girlfriend, I would seriously consider buying one of those.
So can someone briefly summarize what the fuck this site is all about? All I've deducted so far is something about boxes and phreaking.
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I was searching digg before you posted that....
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Phone Bomb- there are also prank calls, videos, some technical things, extended flame wars, an arcade, and podcasts (PLA Radio, BigBeefBueno, etc, etc).
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So can someone briefly summarize what the fuck this site is all about? All I've deducted so far is something about boxes and phreaking.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Phone_losers_of_america (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Phone_losers_of_america)
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can't believe it's on wiki~! is it possible to find it on Encarta as well??
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Why PhoneBomb.net rules: http://phonebomb.net/forum/showthread.php?tid=70&pid=447#pid447
Our new slogan should be, "We destroy lives."
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Why PhoneBomb.net rules: http://phonebomb.net/forum/showthread.php?tid=70&pid=447#pid447
Our new slogan should be, "We destroy lives."
Wow, a group of completely untrustworthy, backstabbing people. Your slogan should be, "We're going to hell."
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Your slogan should be, "We're going to hell."
Aren't we all?
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WTF, this was one of the "Reasons" on a posted number:
This guy Brian ripped me off. I sent him a check and he never sent the shirts I ordered. His internet name is z09. He hates when you call him ZEE OH NINE! I've been messing with him for days now and would love some help.
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Hey, phonebomb:
Hey, is this myspace page yours?
http://www.myspace.com/phonebomb
I tried adding you like a few days ago but nothing happened. MySpace was fucking up so I don't know if you ever recieved a Friend Request.
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Nope, that's not mine. No clue who the fuck that is.
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can't believe it's on wiki~! is it possible to find it on Encarta as well??
Dude, anyone can make a Wikipedia entry.
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can't believe it's on wiki~! is it possible to find it on Encarta as well??
Dude, anyone can make a Wikipedia entry.
I know that's why the "wiki" there, since when you have to make serious posts here?
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I know that's why the "wiki" there, since when you have to make serious posts here?
Its always a good idea if the post makes sense, if its serious or not.
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I know that's why the "wiki" there, since when you have to make serious posts here?
Its always a good idea if the post makes sense, if its serious or not.
And I assume that you will be the one moderating that form now on...
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I know that's why the "wiki" there, since when you have to make serious posts here?
Its always a good idea if the post makes sense, if its serious or not.
And I assume that you will be the one moderating that form now on...
Dill pickles are the best. Ground coconut and asphalt omlet.
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I know that's why the "wiki" there, since when you have to make serious posts here?
Its always a good idea if the post makes sense, if its serious or not.
And I assume that you will be the one moderating that form now on...
Dill pickles are the best. Ground coconut and asphalt omlet.
I personally preffer Spanish Tortilla
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Tortilas are the placentas of burrito babies.
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this is a Spanish tortilla:
(http://fok.blogdns.net/~fok/wp-content/files/tortilla_espanola.jpg)
BTW, "tortilla" means lesbian in Argentinean slang, I thought it was a good piece of info if you ever visit the country...
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That looks like a frittata.
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mmm....narsty, looks like chopped up cactus bits in a cheesy puke gel....
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looks like a sidewalk pizza
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Mr. gerbil, is that you?
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Spanish tortillas are friggin delicious. The egg and sausage and all that fun stuff. It's like a fratata (sp???), except it's good.
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Hmmm, interesting site. I may join the site just to read up on some stuff, mainly so that if I am submitted in the future I will not be bombed. I dunno if there is a guarentee in that but I willy try.
I atleast I have Plan B if I get bombed: 1) Change Numbers, 2) Investiage, 3) Hire a Hitman, 4) No Joke. ;D
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I atleast I have Plan B if I get bombed: 1) Change Numbers, 2) Investiage, 3) Hire a Hitman, 4) No Joke. ;D
I guess you've never read about the zap box.
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Could http://www.PhoneBomb.net be dead?
This Account Has Been Suspended
Phone Bomb had mentioning a second domain name, now only if I could remember the name!!!
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Could http://www.PhoneBomb.net be dead?
This Account Has Been Suspended
Phone Bomb had mentioning a second domain name, now only if I could remember the name!!!
the district attorney's office in california called my host and threatened to shut down his server. I'm working on getting it back up somewhere else.
Stay tuned.
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Gonna move it offshore or something? You should talk to Heywood at messedup.net. He's dealt with being shut down repeatedly before and probably knows of some good hosting solutions.
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I'm thinking of moving it offshore, but the thing is, I don't want to pay for it. I'm hoping to get some kinda of ad placement deal or some shit.
Any ideas?
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That was relatively short lived. I still don't see how this whole thing could be "fully legal", as you do encourage people to call by giving them ideas of what to say, how to do it, and even say "do it" and "it must go on" while also saying don't do it.
They used the same logic to put Matthew Hale in prison, where he would say both "kill someone" and "don't do it because of me". It put him in prison, and I can totally see why it shut your site down.
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I don't see how a site like that can possibly continue either. For the past 10 years I've been regularly contacted by various state cops, secret service, district attorneys, pissed off businesses, and angry citizens. And my site's not nearly as evil as Phone Bomb. I wish you luck with your site, but I would expect to be forced to move often.
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As a real suggestion as to what you should do:
Make mirrors of your site removing all the phone numbers and contact info and host them on different sites like Geocities/xmission/other free providers.
Send this mirror to offshore webhosting companies, universities, and individuals, along with the statistics. I'm sure if you're persistant enough, some other twisted fuck with no regard to US law will happily host you. It just takes persistance.
Another idea would be to find other harassment outfits overseas and see if you can lump in with them, or get some hosting space off of them, and promise to double their suscriber base in return. It would look great, especially if they sold ads.
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Instead of calling it phone bomb just call it like "10 digits" keep everything the same but just replace phone with "10 digits" everywhere its written, and then have a description of the site saying something along the lines of "what numbers could you enter in? Phone numbers that people "MAY" bomb". And then to stop fake numbers have a report number button.
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That doesn't make it any more legal or responsible for harassment.
The issue isn't the way the site is worded. The issue is, people are submitting numbers, PB is POSTING them, and even if they weren't encouraging people to bomb, they sure aren't condemning it or pulling numbers that are being harassed, which means that (in some states) they are in fact encouraging harrassment by letting it go on.
You can say something is for "educational purposes" or say "people MAY bomb this number, but we don't condone it" and it doesn't mean shit depending on how it's carried out.
Also, if you would have saw the forums, it contradicted the site with all that "don't call this number, for educational...." shit strongly enough that it alone could have gotten the site shut down.
I think you had a good idea, Phone Bomb, but I think you may have let it go too far.
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I just inquired with a bunch of warez sites, we'll see what happens.
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My former host just informed my that he was contacted by a local San Diego news team for a quote and they will be talking about Phone Bomb tonight at 5. If anyone can get me a recording of this, I will forever by endowed and will pay you $20 via paypal.
Also, $5 if you show me where I can stream this shit online if possible.
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what station will it be on?
Are you sure hes not lying though? Cause wasnt Anchorman based in San Diego?
And wow I found this ridicules I went to phonebomb.net and this is what i got:
South America Gay Travel Customizable Tours, Open Dates. $ 100 discount if booked by Oct. 31 www.southamericagaytravel.com
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I got a couple calls from the san diego news. apparently my number was on your list. haha.
It is the channel 10 news, they asked me to give information about any harassing phone calls and whatnot, but I havent recieved any more prank calls than usual. :D
btw... thats not a challenge. just saying.
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I got a couple calls from the san diego news. apparently my number was on your list. haha.
It is the channel 10 news, they asked me to give information about any harassing phone calls and whatnot, but I havent recieved any more prank calls than usual. :D
btw... thats not a challenge. just saying.
How did you get to phonelosers from a phonecall about phonebomb?
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google :)
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I am literally rolling around on the floor all crazy-like as I laugh.. well good luck with phonebomb :)
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omg SHIT I hope your not on the news. Especially after the 48 hour bomb.
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san diego local news channel 10 at 11 (www.10news.com)
I've asked at least 30 people to record it. Hopefully one of them will.
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For the love of God, someone please save this (http://www.10news.com/video/10426563/index.html) and post the link.
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k I got it and hosted it on putfile
Link to Dowload:
http://www.putfile.com/downloadfile/Phone-Bomb
Putfile URL:
http://media.putfile.com/Phone-Bomb
I wonder if that was Lloyd the pedifile
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That's still an .asx file though. I got the .mov from someone for $10.
Thanks anyways though.
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That's so lame that they used Grinch footage for that report. Nice report, though, Phone Bomb!
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Atl least they can see the humor in it, somewhat.
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It was a sad day for us when phonebomb's acct suspension page soiled our screens here :( It was such a truely nice idea, and i hope it does come back up. The vide footage is funny, they had footage of the actualy site AND the account suspension [age as if they had something to do with it going down..
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Why is that suspension page on phonebomb.net? Can't you just forward the domain to some working website? If phonelosers.org was taken down, I would forward it to something on brad-carter.com, explaining what was going on. Or at least forward it to a cool page. Like these forums, for example!
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1 second of fame for PLA
(http://i16.tinypic.com/2nc01zc.jpg)
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Its kind of embarrassing that he only got called 30 times. And the worst insult someone called him was a scumbag.....
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yeah rbcp is right. I use Afraid.org for all of my forwarding :)
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phonebomb.net was great while it lasted ;) Hopefully something new comes up eventually. Stinks that I came back from vacation and it appears down.
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While I am all for illigal stuff....can you say "not suprised"?
Oh and PHISH-PHREAK, nice sig. Spider-Man 2999 FTW!!!
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The site would have stayed up longer if not as many people found it. Thats the only way that site would have stayed up. But that wouldnt be fun at all.
My own mediocre attempt at humor has been highly amusing to myself. and thanks sidepocket
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Perhapse the best thing someone can do is start something new/revive something old.... so long as its constantly backed up
shall we begin a directory of code entry, where one may enter *cough* "interesting" digits?
http://www.freeforum101.com/sicninja/
register and submit to the database.
and for the love of god, dont forget roy =P
oh, if anyone would like to help moderate, go ahead and drop me a line chronictoker@gmail.com
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so is it actually "illegal"? Or, did the webhost just "wuss out" and pull the plug, because they (the host) was afraid of inflicting "legal problems" that COULD/MAY (not) occur...no law was cited in the news footage, but yea, I guess I see the reasoning behind it being shut down :P But still....why not just use CallerID, and not answer unknown phone numbers?
Edit:
Actually, I just saw http://www.phonelosers.org/forums/index.php?topic=731.msg8463#msg8463 about the district attorney, but yea, it should be gg if it's offshore :P
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Adam, read the post by the same name under the "is it worth it?" section. If someone in the US is hosting a site overseas that breaks US law, he can still be held legally responsible.
And, to make this point: calling people en masse to harass them is harassment. It doesn't matter if no threats are made; there is no mistake about intent after the first call. If one person is getting dozens or hundreds of calls from a large group of people, forcing them to change their number/phone provider/etc, it's become a possible civil case as well as criminal case.
Someone who operates a site that gets all of these harassers together, gives them resources on how to commit their crimes without detection, encourages people to take place in these actions, and even gives them the opportunity to introduce new victims is legally responsible for every single call made to one of the numbers on his/her site. The webhost, as well, is in the wrong, as no good webhost is going to host a site without knowing the content. Since most of these bombs take place interstate, they (can) become felonies. As the webhost is knowingly abetting felons, he could get all his equipment pulled and his business shut down while the case is going, and the fines would be high enough that he may not re-open.
Think about the mafia. Just because the Don may not commit crimes himself, he is legally responsible for every single crime committed by the mob, just as every other mobster is legally responsible for their own actions and actions they encourage others to take.
The reason no crimes were mentioned in the news report is because charges haven't been filed yet. The DA probably figured it would be easier to shut down the site than try to get enough info on the webhost, PB, and the regulars to prosecute them all. I'm doubting they'd be that generous a second time around, especially if PB were to try to escape prosecution by moving the site overseas but still keeping his name on it and his hand in it.
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Think about the mafia. Just because the Don may not commit crimes himself, he is legally responsible for every single crime committed by the mob, just as every other mobster is legally responsible for their own actions and actions they encourage others to take.
That's not true.
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How so is it not true? They can, and have, prosecuted crime lords for their gang's illegal actions, whether or not they were doing it.
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Yeah it's called conspiracy law.
Anyone in the hierarchy of a criminal enterprise can be prosecuted and held liable for any illegal activities and damages that result from the illegal activities of those operating below him.
It's a very powerful piece of legislation.