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Other Stuff That Has Little To Do With PLA => General Discussions => Topic started by: bamf23 on November 22, 2007, 09:11:49 PM
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So I remember back in high school some friends of mine claimed you could shoplift almost anything from a chain store like wal-crap and not get caught doing it.........I went one time to see how this was done cause they wouldn't tell anyone. So three of us go in and grab a shopping cart. The first item we put in the buggy is what we want, maybe a few more things as well. Then go into the clothes and lay some big shirts on top of the other merch. Continue shopping around. After some time tell your friends "I don't think this shirt will fit you" , he replys "I think it will" blah blah blah tell him to try it on before you buy it. He goes into the dressing room and you hand him the big shirt folded over with some merch under it. After the door is shut he yanks out a knife, cuts the package open and hides it in his cargo pants or jacket, etc. Then messes the shirt up to make it look like it was tried on, and hands it back to you still folded over with empty package inside....you can guess the rest prolly. Just shop around and eventually just park the buggy somewhere and walk outside.....oh on a side note, they started putting those anti theft tabs in electronics battery compartments, so check for those.
Enjoy ;D
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So I remember back in high school some friends of mine claimed you could shoplift almost anything from a chain store like wal-crap and not get caught doing it.........I went one time to see how this was done cause they wouldn't tell anyone. So three of us go in and grab a shopping cart. The first item we put in the buggy is what we want, maybe a few more things as well. Then go into the clothes and lay some big shirts on top of the other merch. Continue shopping around. After some time tell your friends "I don't think this shirt will fit you" , he replys "I think it will" blah blah blah tell him to try it on before you buy it. He goes into the dressing room and you hand him the big shirt folded over with some merch under it. After the door is shut he yanks out a knife, cuts the package open and hides it in his cargo pants or jacket, etc. Then messes the shirt up to make it look like it was tried on, and hands it back to you still folded over with empty package inside....you can guess the rest prolly. Just shop around and eventually just park the buggy somewhere and walk outside.....oh on a side note, they started putting those anti theft tabs in electronics battery compartments, so check for those.
Enjoy ;D
Wow. A stupid way of stealing shit from walmart used by middle schoolers to get the latest GTA for free.
Fantastic scam. Thanks for sharing it.
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Most items worth stealing have the security tags somewhere inside the box now. But I guess if you're ditching the packaging, that's not such a problem. Any method you come up with for shoplifting has been tried before and security knows all about it. Not to sound so negative, but anyone who shoplifts regularly will eventually be caught. There's just no way around it.
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Not to sound so negative, but anyone who shoplifts regularly will eventually be caught. There's just no way around it.
That's why I only shoplift sporadically.
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Always remember this:
You haven't technically stolen anything until you've left the store. Walmart employees are not allowed to catch you until you exit the building. If they see you putting stuff in your jacket or acting suspicious, they will get a few workers to stand outside the exits and wait for you to come out. If you think somebody saw you, go near the exit and see if anybody is standing out there waiting for you. If you see anyone just standing there for no reason, whether they are in Walmart uniform or not, abort mission. Put all your loot back and walk out. If they stop you and ask you to empty your pockets, show them you haven't stolen anything.
My technique for the ultimate Wal-Mart heist is a combination of the box stuffing technique and the decoy alarm maneuver:
- Go to Wally World, do some reconnaissance, buy a cd, go home, keep receipt and bag.
- One week later, give receipt and bag to friend, put a razor blade in your pocket, drive to Wal-mart with friend in his car and park in another store's lot. Leave your friend to wait in the car for your call and head on into Wal-Mart.
- Get a cart and a big box to put in it, like one of those inflatable kiddie pools. Put the box in so the barcode is on top, where the cashier can scan it with the gun. Go somewhere secluded and cut the tape on the box so you have a flap.
- Push the cart around and discreetly put your swag in the box and extra cheap stuff like toothpaste and what-have-ya in the cart itself.
- Wander around aimlessly for a bit, but look like you are shopping. Ditch the cart in a secluded area. Head for the exit, buy a soda from the vending machine, and check and see if anyone is waiting outside. If they are, check the other exits like the garden department. If it looks like people are waiting for you, or you simply have a really bad feeling about it, abort mission. If not, go get the cart.
- Once you have the cart back, call your buddy and tell him it's time. His job is to walk in with that bag and receipt in his pocket. He goes to the cd section and buys that exact same cd you bought and puts it in the bag.
- This is it. The getaway. Your friend takes the bagged cd and waits a short distance from the exit looking at stuff on the shelf. You go through checkout, get everything scanned and paid for, and get ready to go through the sensors, but before you get close to them, break out your phone and call your friend and tell him to go through. Right after he sets off the alarm, go through the sensor while it is ringing. If you timed it right, it will look like he set the alarm off and not you and the greeter will leave you alone and check his bag, only to find a receipt. If they ask to check your cart, don't panic. Let them check it. There's a good chance they will simply think it's a glitch in the system or something (they are Wal-Mart employees, after all) but if they open that box and see all the loot, just walk out of the store. If they don't do that, roll your cart on out of that store and have your friend quickly walk to the other stores lot and gets the car. You kill some time in the parking lot while acting natural, like talking on your phone, and when your friend pulls up in his car, load up the loot and head home.
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You've done this yourself, zewb? It seems way too complex for any normal person to pull off, granted, I've seen people just walk out the door of Wal-mart with 19'' flatpanel TVs.
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It sounds made up.
What is the point of buying a CD beforehand if your friend is just going to buy another one? Presumably he'll get his own bag and receipt and he doesn't need yours.
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What is the point of buying a CD beforehand if your friend is just going to buy another one? Presumably he'll get his own bag and receipt and he doesn't need yours.
Well, if it's a good CD...
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What is the point of buying a CD beforehand if your friend is just going to buy another one? Presumably he'll get his own bag and receipt and he doesn't need yours.
Well, if it's a good CD...
...torrent it if you have no problem with stealing. Shoplifting digital media is ridiculous unless you don't have access to the internet.
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It sounds made up.
What is the point of buying a CD beforehand if your friend is just going to buy another one? Presumably he'll get his own bag and receipt and he doesn't need yours.
No, he doesn't buy another CD. He takes that exact same CD off the shelf and walks through the sensor with it to make it go off, but he won't get in trouble because he has the receipt.
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Unless they notice that the receipt is dated a full week ago?
It sounds made up.
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They aren't going to check the date on the receipt. They are Wal-Mart greeters, for god sake.
But seriously, though, I never tried this, nor claimed to have tried it, it's just a crazy plan I thought up, and I really don't recommend doing it unless you REALLY know what you are doing. It could very well work if executed properly, but the more you steal at one time, the more likely you are to get caught. Small amounts are always going missing from Wal-Mart all the time, but Wal-Mart is making such high profits that it doesn't even matter. It's the big inventory losses that Wal-Mart is concerned with, like $3,000 worth of shit disappearing in one day. For this reason, it's much wiser to take small amounts randomly.
For example, don't go to a store for the sole purpose of stealing. Just steal a little whenever you happen to be shopping. For example, if you are buying clothes, put on a few extra shirts underneath your hoodie in the fitting room. Whenever you go grocery shopping, eat food off the shelf. Put an fancy watch or some jewelry in your big gulp every once in while. Be creative.
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It's the big inventory losses that Wal-Mart is concerned with, like $3,000 worth of shit disappearing in one day. For this reason, it's much wiser to take small amounts randomly.
This is terrible advice. For years Wal-mart has had a policy of vigorously prosecuting shoplifters that steal any amount of merchandise. I used to have one of their anti-shoplifting training manuals; the only people that got any kind of leniency were persons over 65 (not sure why, but they did). I heard that they've recently relaxed this policy, but it's still a bad idea. The LP staff has been doing zero-tolerance for years and the guy who gets you may not have seen the new memo.
Edit: Looks like the new policy is publicly available:
The New York Times reports the change in policy, citing internal documents from Wal-Mart that say it will now only press charges against those between the ages of 18 and 64 who take at least $25 worth of goods. Formerly its policy was to press charges against anyone who took at least $3 in goods.
(snip)
Wal-Mart told the paper it would closely track shoplifters it did not have arrested, and would ask that they be prosecuted after a second incident. It will also seek the prosecution of all suspected shoplifters who threaten violence or fail to produce identification, no matter how much they are trying to steal, according to the report, which said professional shoplifters often do not carry ID in order to avoid arrest.
So they still drag you into the office for any lift, and if it was a few shirts under your hoodie or a fancy watch in your soda, you're still busted. If you don't have ID with you, you're still busted.
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I see people steal from Wal-Mart all the time. Wal-Mart knows that it would cost more money to do anything about the shoplifters than it would to just let them steal.
In any case, I don't care if I do get caught. Wal-Mart is owned by a bunch of motherfuckers, and it would be immoral to not steal shit from them.
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I see people steal from Wal-Mart all the time. Wal-Mart knows that it would cost more money to do anything about the shoplifters than it would to just let them steal.
In any case, I don't care if I do get caught. Wal-Mart is owned by a bunch of motherfuckers, and it would be immoral to not steal shit from them.
Which is the same reason why it's okay to rape babies and then kill them so you can drink their blood. The little bastards are just begging for it with all that crying they do.
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Exactly. I need my baby blood, and I'm sick of those fuckers hoarding it all.
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Your plan relies entirely on the fact that they will assume it is the guy who they just say Paying stealing, rather than the suspicious looking guy with a kiddie pool in his cart running out the door. Don't they have a lot of security cameras that will see you and your FACE?
I know people who steal "VIdeO GamEz!1" from Walmart, it seems like a pretty stupid idea. They were selling them too, that makes it even riskier.
Torrent Movies, Music, and PC games, Buy the rest with the money you save.
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I always thought it would be a good idea to get a cashier job and have a friend come to the store with barcode stickers. They cover the barcodes on expensive items with a 10 cent knickknack barcode and then buy them at your register. He doesn't have to worry about the shitty stickers and obvious price mismatch actually fooling anyone and you have plausible deniability since you could have just not been paying attention. You're just a minimum wage cashier who isn't expected to be smart anyway.
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You're just a minimum wage cashier who isn't expected to be smart anyway.
At least, not smart enough to be earning more than minimum wage.
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The bar code trick would probably work well, only problem will be the lack of inventory on that particular item...
then if they review the security footage, you might get screwed.
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Your plan relies entirely on the fact that they will assume it is the guy who they just say Paying stealing, rather than the suspicious looking guy with a kiddie pool in his cart running out the door. Don't they have a lot of security cameras that will see you and your FACE?
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I believe this is what you meant.
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Y HALLO THAR
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Why isn't this thread rotting in its casket yet?
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Also sage
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I would like to say that I don't endorse shoplifting, but one of the best techniques for the job is renting a large crane and attaching the cables to each corner of the foundation.
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I know I'm very late into the game to chime into this, but as complicated as Zewb's bait/switch plan seems, it can actually work. 2 people used a slightly modified version of this to rob over $100,000 from Wal-Marts across WI my freshman year. The difference is, they would the decoy come into the store like they wanted to return their products and make a fuss at the customer service desk or somewhere else in the store to make sure that they, and not the other person, were followed to the exit.
The trick is to make sure you don't look out of place. The second you look or act like you don't belong is when you don't. it sounds stupid but it's true.
Just my two cents
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I know I'm very late into the game to chime into this, but as complicated as Zewb's bait/switch plan seems, it can actually work. 2 people used a slightly modified version of this to rob over $100,000 from Wal-Marts across WI my freshman year.
Good. I wish more people would rob Wal-Mart. They're nothing but a bunch of evil fucks who exploit Chinese sweatshop workers.
Did those two ever get caught?
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I know I'm very late into the game to chime into this, but as complicated as Zewb's bait/switch plan seems, it can actually work. 2 people used a slightly modified version of this to rob over $100,000 from Wal-Marts across WI my freshman year.
Good. I wish more people would rob Wal-Mart. They're nothing but a bunch of evil fucks who exploit Chinese sweatshop workers.
Wow I completely agree with zewb.
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Did those two ever get caught?
Yes. They confessed to it, as well. Their's should have been an easy catch, since they weren't even using boxes but rubbermaid containers, which shouldn't weigh more than a few pounds but would be chock full of DVDs, software, and any other electronics not bolted down. I'm not really sure how they were caught, but now I want to find out.
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As a broke student who overpays tuition every year, I feel the need to liberate overpriced textbooks and other convenience items necessary to education ( which should be free). I also applied this technique to other vendors in order to liberate products in which I feel I have been overcharged for their use , if your interested I can discuss over PM.
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As a jackass I feel the need to use a bullshit agenda as justification for retail theft.
It's called stealing. Not liberating. You steal books because you can't pay for them.
Do you know what I do when I can't afford my textbooks? I put them on a credit card and work extra hours to pay it off. You'd be amazed how well it works.
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yeah, i'm with you Matt. books are expensive, but i try to find them cheaper used or online to avoid the ridiculous bookstore prices. then...yeah, i have no money, but i get student loans, and have to pay them back after i graduate this year. it sucks to be in debt, but it's for tuition and books...and after all these years of school, i'll be able to do a job i enjoy in order to pay it all off.
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Fuck paying, I love the idea of getting something for free off people who essentially operate a monopoly (you buy the book or you don't graduate, nice choice) and will die fat and rich because of it. They've been making a killing off exploitation since before I was born, and will likely be continuing to do so after I'm dead. Fuck them all.
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Why isn't this thread rotting in its casket yet?
I stand by my previous question.
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http://blog.wakeupwalmart.com/ufcw/2006/07/walmarts_shocki.html
its all free now ;D
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Way to cite old news.
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http://blog.wakeupwalmart.com/ufcw/2006/07/walmarts_shocki.html
its all free now ;D
Way to cite old news.
Now hold on there tachyon. If this is current wal*mart policy, you could really screw them over. Not that it would be very likely to happen, due to the need for so many people, but if you had enough people stealing items that were less than $25, you could put a rather large dent in the inventory of a single wal*mart. Granted, it's extremely improbable that anyone could do this, but it could pose a potential problem.
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I just remember reading this at least a few months ago. It's pretty sweet, I have friends who shoplift most of their food from Wal Mart.
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Question: Does fishing receipts out of the trash and then picking the item on the receipt off the shelf, bringing it up for a refund work? What if you bought an item, kept it and then brought back the receipt for a refund using an in store item? Aside from store cameras would there be other issues with this? UPC not matching or something?
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Question: Does fishing receipts out of the trash and then picking the item on the receipt off the shelf, bringing it up for a refund work?
Yup. Or, at least, it use to work.
[ready for a story, kids?...]
My grandpa has two best friends: Kym (he's rich because he owns a ton of houses) and Ralph (he used to be rich by--you guessed it--shoplifting).
Ralph would dig in the trash, and find receipts for really expensive junk. He then would throw on his $1000 suit, get the same item off the shelf, and walk up to the returns desk all business-like and, effectively, social engineer the employee for a refund.
He would also use the same receipt over and over again, because back then there was no way they could tell if that item had already been returned or not. He even dabbled at making his own receipts from time to time.
He lived in different motels, he didn't even own a house, and constantly traveled all over the US in search of another walmart to scam.
Apparently he made a ton of money at it, though, because my grandpa claimed Ralph was rich, and this coming from a man who once had a business meeting with Bill Gates...
But be warned - Ralph was fucking crazy. He would do small illegal things just to see if he could get away with it (shoplifting, etc.). Also, he had a warrant in North Carolina for his arrest, but he would spend the majority of his time in North Carolina anyway. One time he got caught shoplifting in NC and had to run out of the store, hop into his car, and race past the border. He managed to pull it off, though.
Ralph now lives in a trailer near Kym (my grandpa's other rich friend) and pretty much mooches off of Kym. As far as anybody knows, he doesn't scam anymore: His reason being that they were getting too good at finding ways to foil his tricks.
So yeah, if it doesn't work anymore, blame people like Ralph. What a jerk!
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Cool story about Ralph.
I always wondered if there might be a way to trick people out of their receipts as they leave the store. Like pretend to be a receipt checker when you see somebody carrying an expensive item, then run away with it.
Or do registers still have the journal paper rolls in them that duplicate the receipts? If so, maybe you could pop open the register printer and take the giant roll of receipts inside.
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I always thought it would be a good idea to get a cashier job and have a friend come to the store with barcode stickers. They cover the barcodes on expensive items with a 10 cent knickknack barcode and then buy them at your register. He doesn't have to worry about the shitty stickers and obvious price mismatch actually fooling anyone and you have plausible deniability since you could have just not been paying attention. You're just a minimum wage cashier who isn't expected to be smart anyway.
used to do that it works will for small thing but the boss find it out pity quickly.
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Oh you noobs and your posting in old threads.
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Question: Does fishing receipts out of the trash and then picking the item on the receipt off the shelf, bringing it up for a refund work? What if you bought an item, kept it and then brought back the receipt for a refund using an in store item? Aside from store cameras would there be other issues with this? UPC not matching or something?
I knew a reservist that did something like that at the PX on Ft Bliss. They caught him after a couple months and sent him to Leavenworth for a couple years. Apparently he was doing it a few times a week or so. Wasn't really all that bright, had outstanding warrants for other stuff too.
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All i know about shoplifting is that its damned easy to steal anything from any store where i live. It's scary how lax security is. Also, i'm not regocnizing any of these tactics that people are discussing. I think i've out of the shoplifting loop for too long.:angel:
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http://www.stealthiswiki.org/
Might have some interesting info. Had a few good tips on eating for free in MSP.