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Other Stuff That Has Little To Do With PLA => General Discussions => Topic started by: evilgold on July 10, 2008, 10:33:22 PM
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Just wondering if anyone else here is into modem hacking? Once i found out how simple it was i wanted to kick myself for not getting into it sooner. Now i enjoy 30mbps download speeds for the small cost of basic cable ($15/mo with comcast). So far as i'm aware it also makes me a lot more anonymous on the internets, since my modems mac address isnt linked to any account on record...and if i want to i can even change the mac address.
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Just wondering if anyone else here is into modem hacking? Once i found out how simple it was i wanted to kick myself for not getting into it sooner. Now i enjoy 30mbps download speeds for the small cost of basic cable ($15/mo with comcast). So far as i'm aware it also makes me a lot more anonymous on the internets, since my modems mac address isnt linked to any account on record...and if i want to i can even change the mac address.
You're a liar, but thanks for posting.
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does anyone know how to uncap a dialup account?
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I don't see what having a different mac address has to do with being anonymous if you're still using your own cable modem with your own IP address.
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My hack is better than your hack.
Free cable.
Buy cable internet. Turn off your bill for cable T.V. (if allowed)
Voila.
Free cable.
But you pay for the internet.
I'm cool.
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My hack is better than your hack.
Free cable.
Buy cable internet. Turn off your bill for cable T.V. (if allowed)
Voila.
Free cable.
But you pay for the internet.
I'm cool.
Yeah, with the company I work for, the internet price is about five bucks higher with no other services on the account. If you split the line from your cable modem, you'll get channels 2-22.
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I don't see what having a different mac address has to do with being anonymous if you're still using your own cable modem with your own IP address.
Im talking about changing the cable modems mac address. How else would they track down an IP address to a specific person?
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yeah, in StL i just paid for internet...there was apparently a switch the cable guy had to flip to turn off the TV access from the internet, and he was too lazy to go up and switch it...and told me so. voila...free cable.
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Just wondering if anyone else here is into modem hacking? Once i found out how simple it was i wanted to kick myself for not getting into it sooner. Now i enjoy 30mbps download speeds for the small cost of basic cable ($15/mo with comcast). So far as i'm aware it also makes me a lot more anonymous on the internets, since my modems mac address isnt linked to any account on record...and if i want to i can even change the mac address.
You're a fucking idiot.
When the CMTS detects your modem, it uses one of two means of determine what user you are: your serial number or your MAC address. Upon connection, a modem ranges, locks on to a downstream and upstream frequency, and then using TFTP, it receives a QoS telling it what speed it is capable of. In the event that the MAC or serial is not registered, the accounting system either denies the range to be completed or the modem and any device behind it receives a private IP address, denying any outside routing.
Effectively, you're a terrible bullshitter.
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yeah, in StL i just paid for internet...there was apparently a switch the cable guy had to flip to turn off the TV access from the internet, and he was too lazy to go up and switch it...and told me so. voila...free cable.
In my case, they just put filters on the cable equivalent of a TNI box, but because I have satellite TV, they assumed that there was no need to apply them. On the one and successful time I decided to try it out, I discovered that I had a tonne of unfiltered analogue channels.
If it weren't for my HDTV, I probably would have taken advantage of this by now.
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I soldered my phone line to my coax input and get playboy channel FREE!
Also, i removed a coax connector from my old cable box and modified it to put it in my pci express slot. now i have internet without even having a cable modem. my internet is uncapped and i can go to any site for free including ones that require PASSWORDS! all you need is an empty tuna can, two twist ties off of two loaves of bread and an old banana. make sure it has browned.
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My hack is better than your hack.
Free cable.
Buy cable internet. Turn off your bill for cable T.V. (if allowed)
Voila.
Free cable.
But you pay for the internet.
I'm cool.
Yeah, with the company I work for, the internet price is about five bucks higher with no other services on the account. If you split the line from your cable modem, you'll get channels 2-22.
That's 2-22 more channels more than you'd get without it.
Plus T.V. is lame anyway. Fuck T.V.
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Fuck T.V.
But that's how you get Electro Gonorrhea: The Noisy Killer.
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[...] i can go to any site for free including ones that require PASSWORDS! all you need is an empty tuna can, two twist ties off of two loaves of bread and an old banana. make sure it has browned.
I usually use a modified toaster with CB crystals.
MIB
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I usually use a modified toaster with CB crystals.
MIB
That works as well, but what are you going to toast the two loaves of bread with if you take the crystals? Wasteful kids these days.
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]You're a fucking idiot.
When the CMTS detects your modem, it uses one of two means of determine what user you are: your serial number or your MAC address. Upon connection, a modem ranges, locks on to a downstream and upstream frequency, and then using TFTP, it receives a QoS telling it what speed it is capable of. In the event that the MAC or serial is not registered, the accounting system either denies the range to be completed or the modem and any device behind it receives a private IP address, denying any outside routing.
Effectively, you're a terrible bullshitter.
Actually thats not how comcast does it, comcast gives you a public IP regardless of if your modem registers or not. The way they normally prevent people from getting any use without paying is using DNS redirecting everything to a comcast signup page, and they also give the modem a really shitty QoS setting, that blocks most every port. But by using an alternative DNS set manually on your system you can browse wherever you want. The QoS packet you get is changeable because tftp is too stupid to check what file is requested.
And on ISPs that DO require registered macs to get public IPs, you can sniff out valid MAC addresses on the private network and then clone them to connect.
I'm really shocked you guys dont know about this stuff?
Here is some basic info for you guys to verify im not bullshitting.
http://www.theoryshare.com/cable-modem-modification-tutorials/comcast-premod-how-to.html
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]You're a fucking idiot.
Effectively, you're a terrible bullshitter.
Actually...
Here is some basic info for you guys to verify im not bullshitting.
http://www.theoryshare.com/cable-modem-modification-tutorials/comcast-premod-how-to.html
ACTUALLY,
Your both sort of right. One of you is talking about it from a hardware authentication standpoint and the other is talking about a network provisioning DNS "hack". Effectively your both correct in the overall picture, but trust me when I say there is a lot more going on then just that.
EDIT: You can't run or customize your own boot files on the modem. The TFTP server will send you a new copy or the server will reject it.
EDIT AGAIN: Who is the girl in that avatar?
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ACTUALLY,
Your both sort of right. One of you is talking about it from a hardware authentication standpoint and the other is talking about a network provisioning DNS "hack". Effectively your both correct in the overall picture, but trust me when I say there is a lot more going on then just that.
EDIT: You can't run or customize your own boot files on the modem. The TFTP server will send you a new copy or the server will reject it.
EDIT AGAIN: Who is the girl in that avatar?
I dont know what you mean by boot files... The boot loader on some modems can be replaced, sometimes it doesnt need to be and sometimes it does, it depends on the hacked firmware you use. As far as the QoS speed settings go, the hack works by requesting whatever file you tell it to, but reporting that it gets the "walledgarden" config, which is the one for unregistered modems. That way if comcast where to check what config my modem is running it sees the restricted one, while im actually running one thats capped to 55/5mbps... not that i actually get those speeds, but thats what the caps are. My speeds tend to be around 25/3mbps most of the time. At best i get about 30mbps download speeds... Either way, its more then im supposed to.
The girl is my girlfriend when she was like 17 or so.
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As far as the QoS speed settings go, the hack works by requesting whatever file you tell it to, but reporting that it gets the "walledgarden" config, which is the one for unregistered modems. That way if comcast where to check what config my modem is running it sees the restricted one.
You going to HOPE? We can discuss this in person. I'd rather not put details on here.
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As far as the QoS speed settings go, the hack works by requesting whatever file you tell it to, but reporting that it gets the "walledgarden" config, which is the one for unregistered modems. That way if comcast where to check what config my modem is running it sees the restricted one.
You going to HOPE? We can discuss this in person. I'd rather not put details on here.
Pay for my ticket and room at HOPE. I want to be the one who over hears you and sends this entire thing into a dark, deep, and ugly conspiracy story to hurt the people. Special effects will be seen.
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As far as the QoS speed settings go, the hack works by requesting whatever file you tell it to, but reporting that it gets the "walledgarden" config, which is the one for unregistered modems. That way if comcast where to check what config my modem is running it sees the restricted one.
You going to HOPE? We can discuss this in person. I'd rather not put details on here.
Unfortunately not this year since i just moved to the other side of the country. But if you want other info the people i got my modem from have a nice private forum at sbhacker.net, and i do stay idle in there irc channel.
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As far as the QoS speed settings go, the hack works by requesting whatever file you tell it to, but reporting that it gets the "walledgarden" config, which is the one for unregistered modems. That way if comcast where to check what config my modem is running it sees the restricted one.
You going to HOPE? We can discuss this in person. I'd rather not put details on here.
Unfortunately not this year since i just moved to the other side of the country. But if you want other info the people i got my modem from have a nice private forum at sbhacker.net, and i do stay idle in there irc channel.
If the purpose was to keep things "out of the public's eyes", wouldn't it have made MORE sense to PM him w/ the details? Now, anyone who wants to see the conclusion of your illegal conversation can just register for the forums that you gave the link for and read on.
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I like when the cops are after me! ???
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As far as the QoS speed settings go, the hack works by requesting whatever file you tell it to, but reporting that it gets the "walledgarden" config, which is the one for unregistered modems. That way if comcast where to check what config my modem is running it sees the restricted one.
You going to HOPE? We can discuss this in person. I'd rather not put details on here.
Unfortunately not this year since i just moved to the other side of the country. But if you want other info the people i got my modem from have a nice private forum at sbhacker.net, and i do stay idle in there irc channel.
If the purpose was to keep things "out of the public's eyes", wouldn't it have made MORE sense to PM him w/ the details? Now, anyone who wants to see the conclusion of your illegal conversation can just register for the forums that you gave the link for and read on.
So you think that anyone who might be interested in that information doesnt already know about those forums? Besides what would anyone gain from knowing what is posted in those places? There are plenty of public places with just as much information, and you dont hear about anyone getting into any trouble on those sites either (theoryshare, tcniso, suprbay, etc).
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As far as the QoS speed settings go, the hack works by requesting whatever file you tell it to, but reporting that it gets the "walledgarden" config, which is the one for unregistered modems. That way if comcast where to check what config my modem is running it sees the restricted one.
You going to HOPE? We can discuss this in person. I'd rather not put details on here.
Unfortunately not this year since i just moved to the other side of the country. But if you want other info the people i got my modem from have a nice private forum at sbhacker.net, and i do stay idle in there irc channel.
If the purpose was to keep things "out of the public's eyes", wouldn't it have made MORE sense to PM him w/ the details? Now, anyone who wants to see the conclusion of your illegal conversation can just register for the forums that you gave the link for and read on.
So you think that anyone who might be interested in that information doesnt already know about those forums? Besides what would anyone gain from knowing what is posted in those places? There are plenty of public places with just as much information, and you dont hear about anyone getting into any trouble on those sites either (theoryshare, tcniso, suprbay, etc).
Kids these days. Don't even know the tuna sandwich story. Lil' pricks.
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ACTUALLY,
Your both sort of right. One of you is talking about it from a hardware authentication standpoint and the other is talking about a network provisioning DNS "hack". Effectively your both correct in the overall picture, but trust me when I say there is a lot more going on then just that.
EDIT: You can't run or customize your own boot files on the modem. The TFTP server will send you a new copy or the server will reject it.
EDIT AGAIN: Who is the girl in that avatar?
I dont know what you mean by boot files... The boot loader on some modems can be replaced, sometimes it doesnt need to be and sometimes it does, it depends on the hacked firmware you use. As far as the QoS speed settings go, the hack works by requesting whatever file you tell it to, but reporting that it gets the "walledgarden" config, which is the one for unregistered modems. That way if comcast where to check what config my modem is running it sees the restricted one, while im actually running one thats capped to 55/5mbps... not that i actually get those speeds, but thats what the caps are. My speeds tend to be around 25/3mbps most of the time. At best i get about 30mbps download speeds... Either way, its more then im supposed to.
The girl is my girlfriend when she was like 17 or so.
Who are you to come in here and steal my avatar ideas????
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Holy Shit, Judas Iscariot's still alive? I've got to start checking this place more often.
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Kids these days. Don't even know the tuna sandwich story. Lil' pricks.
OMG! HOW MANY TIMES ARE YOU GOING TO TELL THAT TUNA SALAD STORY!
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Here's a month later bump with some exciting information:
yer all dum
Cable modem hacking is very much alive. Check out evilgold's link, and the same premise is valid on many other modem types and different networks. I may or may not have been getting 30mbit full duplex speeds for free over the last two years with only a thirty dollar investment (new modem). It may be awesome (if indeed I were doing it).
If anyone want specifics, i'm sure I or the few people who seem to know what they are talking about (cough not murdoc) can go into detail on why this works, how it works, and why it is next to impossible to be caught.
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Here's a month later bump with some exciting information:
yer all dum
Cable modem hacking is very much alive. Check out evilgold's link, and the same premise is valid on many other modem types and different networks. I may or may not have been getting 30mbit full duplex speeds for free over the last two years with only a thirty dollar investment (new modem). It may be awesome (if indeed I were doing it).
If anyone want specifics, i'm sure I or the few people who seem to know what they are talking about (cough not murdoc) can go into detail on why this works, how it works, and why it is next to impossible to be caught.
Hey Moose, how was federal prison?
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actually I spent a bunch of time out of the country to avoid prosecution *rainbowsmiley*
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http://www.amazon.com/Hacking-Cable-Modem-What-Companies/dp/1593271018/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1220253608&sr=8-1 (http://www.amazon.com/Hacking-Cable-Modem-What-Companies/dp/1593271018/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1220253608&sr=8-1)
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I don't see what having a different mac address has to do with being anonymous if you're still using your own cable modem with your own IP address.
Im talking about changing the cable modems mac address. How else would they track down an IP address to a specific person?
traceroute
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traceroute
tracert: It hunts you down....
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If you're going to clone your MAC address on your cable modem to get free Internet, you better be discreet and not download like a motherfucker.
We had a case where some idiot was did this and kept changing his MAC address quite frequently--while at the same time saturating our circuits. Thankfully, we knew which up channel he was so we had a truck go out and over a week track down what specific street the twat was on. Eventually we narrowed it down to his house and he ended up settling with us--I heard it was around $6,000 or so in terms of damage to him.
If you really want to steal someone's Internet access, just break your neighbour's WEP or WPA key (if they have one).
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Unsecured wifi rules. I never want for anonymous internets when there's twenty unsecured networks at every public venue. I think that publically available wifi is a great thing both for the guy out there checking boards on the street and also the network admin, since now that his wifi isn't secured how could he be blamed for any sketchy traffic on his line? Its kinda like operating a TOR node, privacy through obscurity.
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If you're going to clone your MAC address on your cable modem to get free Internet, you better be discreet and not download like a motherfucker.
Thats pretty much it. Just dont use more that like fifty percent of the available trunk, and no one will know you were ever there.
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TIP: If a WI-FI Address has a WEP key, get the phone book and look up their phone number. Geek Squad and others often install Wi-Fi Routers for people and companies. They use the Phone Number as the key and the Last Name of said person to set up the access point.
Dumbasses. ;D
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TIP: If a WI-FI Address has a WEP key, get the phone book and look up their phone number. Geek Squad and others often install Wi-Fi Routers for people and companies. They use the Phone Number as the key and the Last Name of said person to set up the access point.
Dumbasses. ;D
ISPs also do this too.
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TIP: If a WI-FI Address has a WEP key, get the phone book and look up their phone number. Geek Squad and others often install Wi-Fi Routers for people and companies. They use the Phone Number as the key and the Last Name of said person to set up the access point.
Dumbasses. ;D
All the Subway restaurants in my area love to advertise their free public WiFi; in an act of complete pointlessness one of them did exactly as you posted and then put up a notice in the store's front window with all the information. When asked why they didn't just leave it open the owner of the place replied, "For a little extra security."
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All the Subway restaurants in my area love to advertise their free public WiFi; in an act of complete pointlessness one of them did exactly as you posted and then put up a notice in the store's front window with all the information. When asked why they didn't just leave it open the owner of the place replied, "For a little extra security."
Well, at least with WEP, your internet usage isnt broadcast in plain text. Someone needs to take the ten seconds of effort to crack it. And hopefully you aren't doing anything you wouldn't want other people to see without some kind of encryption anyway.
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And hopefully you aren't doing anything you wouldn't want other people to see without some kind of encryption anyway.
Like downloading classified documents from Vladimir Putin's website? No, never.
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Actually it is possible. I recently found a PDF file on my C:\ with the name of CableModemHacking, I must of downloaded it when I was high or something, but I started reading it, and searched for more, but so far I can only find ways to do it to UK models and ISP's. There was some forum where they share mac addresses that they scan with a DHCP bruter or something. Anyone know of an American forum for this, or would PLA be willing to sponsor that too ;D