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Other Stuff That Has Little To Do With PLA => General Discussions => Topic started by: Cyph on August 28, 2008, 09:59:40 PM
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Hi I'm Slackers best friend Cypher. We've known each other since we were in high school. He is going to prison for pulling a gun on a hot dog vender while VERY drunk at a local bar.
His ex girlfriend recently took his kid legally away from him and he decided to get very very wasted. He went to a party with a friend of ours after being on a drinking spree on everclear and other boose for awhile . There he found a gun and 9 mags and went up town to this bar in springfield IL called "The Firehouse". There he pulled a gun on the local hotdog guy that he knew. They were both drunk and I guess got into an argument and he pulled a gun. As soon as he pulled it everyone shouted "GUN" (this is a firemans bar mind you and cops are there too!) So he pulls it and the whole bar jumps on him and holds him down till uniformed police gets there. I'm not sure yet where they will take him and I will let you know when we have more information.
I'm The same Cypher on Skype for you PLA friends that chat with us on there sometimes...
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Thanks for the update, I was kind of wondering why he wasn't around anymore. He'll be missed here. By me at least. Maybe you can post his prison address on here and I'll send him some weird stuff that will make the prison guards eye him suspiciously.
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thanks for the update. i'm going to miss him here...i echo RBCP in that if you can post his address, that would be awesome.
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:-[ :-[ :-[ :-[ :-[
He was my bestest friend from the PLA.
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i want a booking photo :(
looks like pdx has some company though
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I would also like a booking photo.
What a douchebag to pull out a gun on some guy. He has prison coming.
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I would also like a booking photo.
What a douchebag to pull out a gun on some guy. He has prison coming.
Edit: changed my mind. prison does not help recovering addicts at all.
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Ya know murd0c he really liked you. Why be so mean? What would you do if you had drank half a 5th of everclear and hand a gun? I'm sure he had no idea wtf he was doing. he blacks out sometimes and doesn't remember shit.
I doubt you will get a photo out of respect for him. When he was clean and sober he was a real good guy.
He had a drinking problem and a drug problem. He also had severe depression that has landed him in the mental ward a few times because he cut him self trying to kill him self.
I think he belongs in a metal institution for ppycotic evaluation and treatment. He also needs to be on a life long plan for drug and alcohol abuse.
On another note. The pranks... Grow up - how old are you 12? This type of behavior is part of what landed him in the situation in the first place! My self and another best friend grew up got jobs and really got into life. Yeah we have problems but we don't party all the time or act like little kids. If he hadn't been playing all the time at age 26 he would of made a great IT person.
People really need to think about this type of activity. It's all fun and games till someone gets hurt. If your over 19 years of age IMO you should be looking for a stable way to make a life and have some honest fun doing it. I've been using computers since 1986 I've done a lot of dirty shitty things to people.. Hell you name it I've most likely done it. The thing is.. It took me 14 years to learn the difference from right and wrong and not to have indifference for peoples feelings. Though I'm still a jerk I do now see where people are coming from. I'm the guy that handed Slacker an old pc and a linux book. He will for ever be missed....
Little side story:
We had a lineman's hand set and I was about 20 years old and he was 17 or 18. We were outside our friends girlfriends apartment running a phone line from the next door business and we look over and our friend is doing his girlfriend in the butt. We can see it through the window. Then we see him dip his stuff into a container of "I can't believe it's not butter" to use it for lube. Our friend we sometimes refurred to as "bull" because he ran around naked at parties and well you guessed the other part i'm sure.. So he lubes up and gets busy she looks like she's going to die. Well we decide we've had enough of watching that and laughing and get back to making our phone calls to Mexico and Australia. Plus a few sex lines.
We go back in party all night and sleep. The next morning this guy named Tony comes over.. We all hate tony because he's a big bum. We watch him come in make him self at home and goto the fridge. Well at the fridge he pulls out the I can't believe it's not butter and makes him self some toast. We all start laughing and he has no idea whats going on so he keeps eatting his toast with the "butter" on it.. ;)
My self and our other friend have dopped him as a friend but we will always remember the normal guy we hung out with! RIP bro. (I doubt he will live very long after this shit) If he makes it out I hope he betters his life and grows up!
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Hi Cypher! Thanks for the update. I know I speak for more than just myself when I say I appreciate it. I hope you continue to keep us abreast on any new updates with his situation.
I know RBCP and Rogue won't be the only ones to miss him. He is a good guy and his presence has already been missed. Especially on IRC. :'( (We don't miss YOU anymore Lestan because you haven't been in so long.)
I would like to echo Rogue's echoing about posting his address. I want to do what I can to make it better for him.
Thanks again for the update,
jenn
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that sucks. i like s1acker a lot. how long is his sentence?
also, you're an idiot for trying to blame drug & alcohol abuse/prison on pranks.
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Its more likely that the drug and alcohol abuse contributed to the lack of drive and prankdom...not the other way around.
Regardless, i will miss him.
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As dumb and awful a thing as it is to pull a gun on some random guy in an argument, I still don't see the logic in so-called retributive justice. S1acker sounds like he has some major problems that he needs help with, it seems bullshit that so many such people get sent to straight to the can instead of a proper mental health facility (and not some bullshit Cuckoo's Nest type place either a real one). Sending people to jail never makes them better, often a whole lot worse.
I haven't been on IRC too much regularily (girlfriend, working nights) but if he still remembers me I'd be happy to mail stuff to hopefully take his mind off things for a bit anyway.
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Does this mean no more pla skype conferences?
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that sucks. i like s1acker a lot. how long is his sentence?
Slacker is going to prison for 5 years! This is NOT A Prank!
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How much of his 5 year sentence is he likely to do? Assuming he's a model prisoner, will they let him out after 3 or 4 years instead? Hopefully the years of soberness will help him out a little. Doesn't seem right to lock him up for that long when he didn't actually hurt anyone. Has he been arrested before for anything?
S1acker was a fun person on the Skype conferences. Now that he's gone I wish I'd spent more time on the conferences with him. I hope he still loves the PLA when he gets out and visits the site. Assuming I still love the PLA and have the site.
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Hopefully the years of soberness will help him out a little.
I thought hard drugs were readily available in US prisons?
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that sucks. i like s1acker a lot. how long is his sentence?
Slacker is going to prison for 5 years! This is NOT A Prank!
you know i can't read, you piece of shit.
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Ok, this whole thread has pissed me off. S1acker was worried that people on here were going to find out, and he didn't want that to happen. Cypher, I don't know why you decided to post this, but it's not cool. I talked to him this morning, and he was actually pretty upset that I told the 2 PLAers that I did. You talk about not giving out booking photos out of respect for him, but where's the respect for him when you go around talking about his PERSONAL LIFE with people you don't know on the INTERNET? W. T. F. (not that I don't <3 you guys) You didn't even get the fucking story right. I'm done ranting for now, I guess. But really, wtf.
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RBCP im 100% sure he will still hang with the PLA. tachyon yes he still knows you that night i was with him when this shit happened we was tlakin about PLA and you mentioned you. but yea im not getting into it much. about what happened and all that. except with those that knew already and close friends. nothing against anyone here just im sure he doesnt want it on the first search of google. =x
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I'm pretty sure most county jails have computer terminals that inmates can use when they're behaving or during some sort of recreational time on their own. However if the PLA is allowed to be accessed or not is beyond me. So maybe you guys will see more of s1acker while he's on the inside; he's got nothing else to do while in there really; aside from survival of course.
I don't know s1acker well at all really. In fact I just hang around here for the laughs and occasional pieces of good information that are some times posted. Either way, I know if any of what cypher said was true about the addictions, I know what he's going through. Yeah, my mother is a crack head, funny, right? Beer; cocain; ecstasy, part of a healthy every day diet. So even if I didn't know him, but he's going through anything close to that, I honestly wish him the best of luck.
But maybe being in prison for a while will sober him up. He'll stay sobered up while in there, that's great; you need to worry about after he gets out though. Maybe go beige boxing with him on the weekends, play pranks on the local linemen. Things of that nature.
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Ok, this whole thread has pissed me off. S1acker was worried that people on here were going to find out, and he didn't want that to happen. Cypher, I don't know why you decided to post this, but it's not cool. I talked to him this morning, and he was actually pretty upset that I told the 2 PLAers that I did. You talk about not giving out booking photos out of respect for him, but where's the respect for him when you go around talking about his PERSONAL LIFE with people you don't know on the INTERNET? W. T. F. (not that I don't <3 you guys) You didn't even get the fucking story right. I'm done ranting for now, I guess. But really, wtf.
Don't be too hard on Cypher, his intentions were not bad. If anything this thread as proven that many of the PLAers think highly of Slacker and are willing to offer their support. The support may only come in the form of positive words for him via IRC, email or in this thread, but I'm sure Slacker will enjoy hearing from everyone none the less. As far as this being a private issue, it hasn't been private since the day it happened. This was floating around IRC and within our skype group well before this post. Whatever Slacker did, I'm sure, hasn't changed anyones opinion of him (good or bad). Besides, whats the opinion of some internet kiddies worth anyway.
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Who are you? How do you know "S1acker" and how long have you known him? If not long I'm going to laugh my ass of because I know him VERY well and know how he is with women. Have you and I met?
I've been his friend since high school and right after school best friend. I thought I was doing him a favor by telling his friends that were on here that he wasn't going to be back. Also Our other friend whom is a member on here told people before me. Not that I knew that.
Also there's a thing called the news paper.. It was in there!
PM ME
Ok, this whole thread has pissed me off. S1acker was worried that people on here were going to find out, and he didn't want that to happen. Cypher, I don't know why you decided to post this, but it's not cool. I talked to him this morning, and he was actually pretty upset that I told the 2 PLAers that I did. You talk about not giving out booking photos out of respect for him, but where's the respect for him when you go around talking about his PERSONAL LIFE with people you don't know on the INTERNET? W. T. F. (not that I don't <3 you guys) You didn't even get the fucking story right. I'm done ranting for now, I guess. But really, wtf.
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i hope you aint referring to me as the friend that told everyone. i told you and you know who when you was at my house and that was it they knew in the pla irc the next day cause of neg so i hope thats who you are referring about.
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Who are you? How do you know "S1acker" and how long have you known him? If not long I'm going to laugh my ass of because I know him VERY well and know how he is with women. Have you and I met?
I've been his friend since high school and right after school best friend. I thought I was doing him a favor by telling his friends that were on here that he wasn't going to be back. Also Our other friend whom is a member on here told people before me. Not that I knew that.
Also there's a thing called the news paper.. It was in there!
PM ME
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Ok, this whole thread has pissed me off. S1acker was worried that people on here were going to find out, and he didn't want that to happen. Cypher, I don't know why you decided to post this, but it's not cool. I talked to him this morning, and he was actually pretty upset that I told the 2 PLAers that I did. You talk about not giving out booking photos out of respect for him, but where's the respect for him when you go around talking about his PERSONAL LIFE with people you don't know on the INTERNET? W. T. F. (not that I don't <3 you guys) You didn't even get the fucking story right. I'm done ranting for now, I guess. But really, wtf.
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WTF?? NEWSPAPER LINK NAOW!!!
what is wrong with the PLA that they didnt ask this first?? Seriously guise, s1acker is awesome, which is exactly why i would expect him to pull something like this. IF its true, then i'm sad to hear that and I would like to let s1acker know we miss him. But something about all this just seems like its a prank. No disrespect or anything implied.
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i thought the same thing.Too many inconsistencies in his story.
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Aside from any bickering that's going on could one of you guys that gets to talk to him IRL tell him that we all love him and hope that everything works out for him? Seriously, what he needs right now is his friends and we should be there for him. Maybe we could do a weekly s1acker thread and have someone with his new address print it out and mail it to him or something.
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haha since its all out there now and you guys know. yea m0rdekai and nova it aint a joke. i was at the house with him the night it happened. LordNod when he can have visitors ima be up there the first day so i will talk to him and tell him and if he wants me to give you guys the mailing address i will. but if he says no ima respect that. but im sure he will since thats a lonely ass place and that stuff will help time pass and keep his mind in line.
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*hug*
thanks, Logic.
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+100 to that I'll be there also. I doubt he will be very happy with me but too fucking bad I'm not very happy with him.
haha since its all out there now and you guys know. yea m0rdekai and nova it aint a joke. i was at the house with him the night it happened. LordNod when he can have visitors ima be up there the first day so i will talk to him and tell him and if he wants me to give you guys the mailing address i will. but if he says no ima respect that. but im sure he will since thats a lonely ass place and that stuff will help time pass and keep his mind in line.
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It'll be another month or so before he is fully transferred and has a permanent incarcerated address. Until then, he's been calling me about every other day, so if you guys have anything you want him to know now, let me know and I'll pass it on.
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Hopefully this all works out for him in the end. How about his family? Have they been helping him or?
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Prison doesn't do anything but destroy the happiness and joy inside a person. It's a warzone where people align themselves in groups according to race, and anyone with a shred of humanity left inside of them is immediately identified and taken advantage of. If you guys want to help your friend, stay in touch with him, and send him commisary money.
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tell him i took his job.
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Hey sknoob, you don't like what's going on in this thread? GTFO. No one has a gun to your head making you come in here. This is the s1acker thread. Not the "Look how much of a faggot sknoob is" thread. That's every other thread you post in.
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Also there's a thing called the news paper.. It was in there!
Because this is the internets, I demand the alleged newspaper article. GO!
Hey sknoob, you don't like what's going on in this thread? GTFO. No one has a gun to your head making you come in here. This is the s1acker thread. Not the "Look how much of a faggot sknoob is" thread. That's every other thread you post in.
Win for Nod.
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While I don't condone what Slacker has done, American prisons really, really bother me. Canadian prisons have a high success rate, and in Slacker's case, he'd get a year in jail and then maybe two years of probation. When you're in prison here, you have access to high school and post-secondary courses amongst many, many other support programmes.
So in Slacker's case, I think what he had done was stupid, but I feel sorry for his ass simply because you cannot really better yourself in the American prison system.
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boy oh boy. :-\ @ this thread haha
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Canadian prisons suck too. Prison is bad, and it sucks to have to go there.
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Canadian prisons suck too. Prison is bad, and it sucks to have to go there.
Prison sucks regardless of any country. However, I'd rather go to a Canadian prison before an American one and I am quite certain that you would agree with me on this one. The fact that he got five years for this speaks volumes of how draconian the American justice system is.
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well theres a reason for that 5 years i think, but yea. im not going into any of it. if he wants to tell you that stuff in his letters when i post the address(if he wants me to that is) then yea.
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...and people want to give ME drugs...
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So in Slacker's case, I think what he had done was stupid, but I feel sorry for his ass simply because you cannot really better yourself in the American prison system.
yeah I feel sorry for his ass too.
If he's not the fighting type, then don't be surprised if when you visit him, his orange uniform has been bleached into a pretty pinkish shade, and he's got red kool aid powder on his lips to simulate lipstick. That shit does happen. I've been to county jail for a 3 month bit, and the old timers in there tell you some true stories about their time in prison that will scare you straight.
Guns are for cowards anyways.
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So in Slacker's case, I think what he had done was stupid, but I feel sorry for his ass simply because you cannot really better yourself in the American prison system.
yeah I feel sorry for his ass too.
If he's not the fighting type, then don't be surprised if when you visit him, his orange uniform has been bleached into a pretty pinkish shade, and he's got red kool aid powder on his lips to simulate lipstick. That shit does happen. I've been to county jail for a 3 month bit, and the old timers in there tell you some true stories about their time in prison that will scare you straight.
Guns are for cowards anyways.
But they're also for the victor.
If he behaves in prison or he has a re-trial he may have the sentence reduced heavily. So one can hope.
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Someone needs to offer him a job when he gets out. Having a record pretty much guarantees a career of pushing a broom for the rest of your life, and lowers the chance of renting a decent home in a nice part of town to a negative number.
That alone should be enough to drive a sane man insane, and fuel any hatred of the criminal justice system beyond level red. So if he has a temper and or a drinking problem, he should attend AA classes while inside and ditch that evil booze before he gets caught up in a loop.
If he behaves in prison or he has a re-trial he may have the sentence reduced heavily. So one can hope.
Some states have minimum mandatory sentences for crimes committed with firearms. Here in Florida it goes like this:
Use a gun while committing a felony: 10 years.
Hurt someone: 20 years.
Kill: Life in prison or death.
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hahaha bravo sharky, but you sir are once again incorrect. but there is one thing I agree with you on.... its that your are a man, you've got a wife, child, job oh wait scratch that last one I must of forgot that a man is someone who lives with and off his parents until he is , 28? any ways thank you for giving me something to laugh my figurative ass off, and I very much doubt you will be there when visitation days come. it is a shame that your too oblivious on what a friend actually is. one last thing before you point fingers think about all the times you've supported slackers habits. get a fucking life and a job you cant live off your trust fund and suckle the breast of your mother forever pretty fucking sad when an 18 year old can get and hold a job longer than all the time of your jobs combined manly man or should I just call you "Bob"? Douche fag. and to negs and logic thank you very much, pla I will keep you posted if that is what slacker wants. RBCP you should ban Cyph's account ;)
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tl;dr
...or should I just call you "Bob"?
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ALSO ALL PEOPLE IN ILLINOIS STOP POSTING THX, WE DONT CARE ABOUT YOUR WHITE TRASH FRIENDS ANYMORE.