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Offline sam.2600

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is our country turning into a fascist state?
« on: June 21, 2006, 08:30:58 PM »
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=1616088001333580937


i suggest todays generation take action, our parents gave up when they said thet, they became sheep.

well i dont know about you, but ill give up what i have to bring our country back under the constitution, our generation has to stop this, we cant really be kids any more, this is the last chance i see us having...much longer and this will be a reality, heed orwells warning :(


you can call me crazy, i probably am, but at least give it thought.

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Re: is our country turning into a fascist state?
« Reply #1 on: June 21, 2006, 08:51:40 PM »

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Re: is our country turning into a fascist state?
« Reply #2 on: June 21, 2006, 09:14:32 PM »
That is one of the scariest things I have ever seen.  If they ever try to put a tracking device on me I will put up a fight!  I am with you Sam!

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Re: is our country turning into a fascist state?
« Reply #3 on: June 22, 2006, 09:52:24 AM »
I wouldn't say fascist, more like a corporate oligarchy. Although the neo-cons are a breed apart from other recent administrations as far as incompetence, blatant opportunism and human rights abuses are concerned.

You want some scary political shit? Check this stuff out:

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-7772696530684663669&q=loose+change

Watch the video. Do you believe it?
« Last Edit: June 22, 2006, 01:26:58 PM by Colonel Panic »

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Re: is our country turning into a fascist state?
« Reply #4 on: June 22, 2006, 09:53:19 AM »
In case anyone here doubts that the US used to support Saddam: Here's the video of Donald Rumsfeld shaking hands with Saddam Hussein on a diplomatic trip to Iraq in 1983:

<a href="http://video.google.com/googleplayer.swf?docId=1633879252804105447" target="_blank">http://video.google.com/googleplayer.swf?docId=1633879252804105447</a>

And here's the story.

Anyway, It'd be nice if we could discuss politics here without it getting too divisive.
« Last Edit: June 22, 2006, 01:27:44 PM by Colonel Panic »

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Re: is our country turning into a fascist state?
« Reply #5 on: June 22, 2006, 11:00:06 AM »
What the fuck?  Politics?  Get out of here right now!

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Re: is our country turning into a fascist state?
« Reply #6 on: June 22, 2006, 12:43:05 PM »
Oh BTW, in reply to that question as to what law gives the government the right to collect income taxes, it was the 16th Amendment to the Constitution. This Aaron Russo guy purports to be defending the US Constitution and he obviously doesn't even know the document he's defending.

All these alarmist political documentaries are getting out of hand, with their blatant ignorance/falsifying of the facts. Even Michael Moore never stooped that low. A single unresearched fact like that income tax thing blows this movie's credibility to shit. Even if some of the allegations being made by Mr. Russo are true, they'll all be dismissed because the moron can't be bothered to check his basic facts.

There's enough real illegal activity going on in our government to fill a hundred documentaries. But every idiot with a camera thinks he's going to play on the public's distrust of government to make the next Fahrenheit 911. So now we're getting loads of these dumbed-down, poorly researched, fear-mongering "crock-umentaries" that obviously play up the sensational topics and never really dig for the facts.

Fighting lies with more lies is not the answer. Americans are not that stupid. It took me like 2 seconds on the WWW to find the 16th Amendment. The more of these bullshit documentaries people see, the more they are going to just start dismissing everyone who criticizes the neoconservatives as a crackpot.
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Re: is our country turning into a fascist state?
« Reply #7 on: June 22, 2006, 01:14:46 PM »
Who gives a shit? You guys gotta realize that you're all like 17, and you can't change the world. Just go back to looking at porn and reading 2600, listening to Against Me! and thinking you're hardcore.

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Re: is our country turning into a fascist state?
« Reply #8 on: June 22, 2006, 01:26:29 PM »
Who gives a shit? You guys gotta realize that you're all like 17, and you can't change the world. Just go back to looking at porn and reading 2600, listening to Against Me! and thinking you're hardcore.

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Re: is our country turning into a fascist state?
« Reply #9 on: June 22, 2006, 01:33:22 PM »
Well SOMEBODY sounds jaded.

How old are you Murd0c, like 50?

You can change the world, or at least this country. We still elect our leaders. It is possible to organize people with similar perceptions and opinions on what is going on, to raise awareness to the level where a turning point can be reached.

The question is, are you prepared to do what it takes?  Do you have enough of a work ethic, and do you care enough?

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Re: is our country turning into a fascist state?
« Reply #10 on: June 22, 2006, 02:02:35 PM »
murd0c's like 20, I think.  Incidentally, I'm 25 and I spend most of my time looking at porn, reading 2600, and listening to the occassional Against Me album.  ;)
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Re: is our country turning into a fascist state?
« Reply #11 on: June 22, 2006, 03:13:07 PM »
im thinking if the people who need our votes see that they wont get them, things will change eventually...

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Re: is our country turning into a fascist state?
« Reply #12 on: June 22, 2006, 03:29:08 PM »
I think we should get to slap anyone who uses the phrase "neocons".

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Re: is our country turning into a fascist state?
« Reply #13 on: June 22, 2006, 03:34:23 PM »
Who gives a shit? You guys gotta realize that you're all like 17, and you can't change the world. Just go back to looking at porn and reading 2600, listening to Against Me! and thinking you're hardcore.

Amen murd0c.  Amen!  Even  though you are only 19 or 20 I aggree with you.  I like number 11. 



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Re: is our country turning into a fascist state?
« Reply #14 on: June 22, 2006, 04:38:31 PM »
I've been voting for a while now.  I just think most of you people are too inept to be talking about politics.  Maybe we should talk about the politics of, "OMG HOW AM I GOING TO GET A RIDEZOR TO DEFCON!?!?!?111"