Stolen credit card number

[Andy Hedgehog]

Okay, I was ust wondering, How much potential trouble could I get into for using a stolen credit card number online, I have no arrests (so far) and live in the state of Texas, how much jail time/fines could I get if I'm caught? (I havent used the number so far, and want to know the risk I'm taking here)

[Tachyon]

Probably nothing, I read in Frank Abagnale's book "Stealing your Life" that nobody wants to spend the money to catch low-lives who steal credit card numbers and shit. In fact I think he said that the FBI has a standing order not to pursue people who rip off under a certain dollar amount, like 2000 or something like that.

[rbcp]

What about when it's the local police department's new "computer crime" guy who's really anxious to bust someone in their small town?  It's not that unlikely that someone could put time and effort into tracking down someone who just stole a few hundred dollars.

[MattGSX]

If they were stupid enough to let their card # get stolen, they deserve to have a few extra purchases made. I'm sure the government would agree.

Go wild.

[mr_doc]

They'll never catch you. They won't make any attempt. It's totally worth it. The risk is small. You have so much to gain.

[Tachyon]

My local book store didn't have a copy of the criminal code of Canada available (so much for the 'ignorance of the law' argument) and the online one annoys me, but my roughly ten year old copy says that you could get ten years for it. They were really harsh with a lot of fucked up things back then, I hope they didn't actually enforce most of it.

[Dark_Star_Academy]

don't order shit online. where you gonna have it shipped, ur house? Goto walmart, buy a ps3 and use the self checkout. sell it on ebay if ya want the cash.

[rbcp]

don't order shit online. where you gonna have it shipped, ur house? Goto walmart, buy a ps3 and use the self checkout. sell it on ebay if ya want the cash.

That'd be a great idea if self checkout lanes would allow you to just enter in a number without needing the actual card.

[Tachyon]

A friend of mine said that years ago her mom used to order chinese food with stolen numbers, do restaurants take numbers over the phone ever?

[rbcp]

A friend of mine said that years ago her mom used to order chinese food with stolen numbers, do restaurants take numbers over the phone ever?

I tried it with pizza once and they said that even though they would take the number over the phone, the delivery driver would still need to see the card when he arrived.

[gangals]

I tried it with pizza once and they said that even though they would take the number over the phone, the delivery driver would still need to see the card when he arrived.

Same, but when the pizza arrives, the delivery person has never asked for it, nor do they have a slip that says what number supposed to be and even if they did, you could make a non-working replica of the card.

[MattGSX]

I never use cash when I order something. I can think of one time when the driver wanted to see my card, and that's because he entered in the numbers incorrectly the first couple times and thought I had just made one up.

Your best bet is to get the card # onto something like a hotel keycard and THEN go use it at a self check-out.

Or, you can just sell the # to some Nigerian scammers. Granted, they're going to pay you in fake money orders, but hey. It's the thought that counts, right?

[cricket]

Something that you could do with stolen numbers is sell stuff to yourself on e-bay.
Or lose money to yourself in an online poker room.
But you have to be careful that the logs on the sites don't show the same I.P. for the buyer\seller or winner\loser. So do it from 2 different computers. preferably one would be behind a NAT gateway like at a coffee shop.

[Nod]

Or lose money to yourself in an online poker room.

That's called dumping and they watch pretty closely for that.

[Tachyon]

I think selling credit card numbers could be the safest way to profit from them.